From: Bob on
Mark V. wrote:
> On Jun 10, 7:49 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>> Bob wrote:
>>> Mark V. wrote:
>>>> On Jun 10, 7:25 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>>>>> Mark V. wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 10, 3:49 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Mehdi wrote:
>>>>>>>> FRANCE
>>>>>>>> have rarely convinced under Domenech, they scraped through to
>>>>>>>> the finals thanks to Henry's cheating
>>
>>>>>>> As you ought to know, Given, the Irish keeper cheated ( took
>>>>>>> Anelka dowen in
>>>>>>> the box) minutes before Henry handled the
>>>>>>> ball:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vo8OwMBTs
>>
>>>>>>> Time for new glasses for Mehdi ...
>>
>>>>>> Oh, jeez.
>>
>>>>> do you need glasses too?
>>
>>>> As a matter of fact, I might. Do you need a new horse? (This is a
>>>> rhetorical question)
>>
>>> What makes my insistance that Given cheated first any more
>>> bothersome than other posters (4 references to it jsut today in
>>> this forum) insisting that France cheated it's way to SA when they
>>> have been provided with incontrovertible evidence that Given took
>>> Anelka down in the box minutes before Henry handled the ball:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vo8OwMBTs
>>
>> btw that wasn't a rhetorical question on my part.
>
> What are your thoughts on France's prospects vs. Uruguay tomorrow?

Your refusal to answer my question is unfortunate. It kind of reminds me of
the multitude who claimed that Malouda dived, then went silent when the
evidence of the opposite surfaced as if their bias was more important than
setting the record straight. I don't know if it is your case. I guess time
will tell.

As to my thought regarding tomorrow match, I suspect one shouldn't expect a
tremendous departure from what we have seen so far from the French, which
has been overall quite sobering. Although there is a fair amount of French
individual talent on paper and the team appeared to be steadily improving
before the ultimate match in qualifications, both defense and offense are
unsettled so that I almost wouldn't even characterized them as work in
progress. The defense has especially been susceptible to conceeding in the
aerial game and I am a little concerned about Abidal in central defense
although no more so than for anybody else available for that position. The
offense still can't score and although strikers have been the subject of
criticism, I feel that distribution is more the problem. Unfortunately,
Gourcuff hasn't shown much since the first half of last season and Ribery
has rarely produced in a French shirt. As used so far in prep games, the
French offense is quite lopsided with a very potent left side
(Evra-Malouda-Ribery) that can put fire to anybody's house and a much tamer
right side (Sagna-Gourcuff-Govou). I suspect we will see the same line up
tomorrow and I hope RD will keep Henry on the bench despite pressures on him
to not do so.


From: Mark V. on
On Jun 10, 10:35 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:


> Your refusal to answer my question is unfortunate.

I am not interested in that anymore. If I am going to think about
football, I have more enjoyable matters to consider. Maybe in the
middle of July of 2011 when things are slow in the football world we
can bring this up again.

> As to my thought regarding tomorrow match, I suspect one shouldn't expect a
> tremendous departure from what we have seen so far from the French, which
> has been overall quite sobering. Although there is a fair amount of French
> individual talent on paper and the team appeared to be steadily improving
> before the ultimate match in qualifications, both defense and offense are
> unsettled so that I almost wouldn't even characterized them as work in
> progress. The defense has especially been susceptible to conceeding in the
> aerial game and I am a little concerned about Abidal in central defense
> although no more so than for anybody else available for that position. The
> offense still can't score and although strikers have been the subject of
> criticism, I feel that distribution is more the problem. Unfortunately,
> Gourcuff hasn't shown much since the first half of last season and Ribery
> has rarely produced in a French shirt. As used so far in prep games, the
> French offense is quite lopsided with a very potent left side
> (Evra-Malouda-Ribery) that can put fire to anybody's house and a much tamer
> right side (Sagna-Gourcuff-Govou). I suspect we will see the same line up
> tomorrow and I hope RD will keep Henry on the bench despite pressures on him
> to not do so.

That's a very thoughtful write-up. I wish we saw more of this from
you. Would you start someone in place of Gourcuff and Govou? Diaby in
place of the former, perhaps?
From: Bob on
Mark V. wrote:
> On Jun 10, 10:35 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Your refusal to answer my question is unfortunate.
>
> I am not interested in that anymore. If I am going to think about
> football, I have more enjoyable matters to consider. Maybe in the
> middle of July of 2011 when things are slow in the football world we
> can bring this up again.

I didn't bring it up. I only corrected misinformation which you answered by
saying 'geez'.

>> As to my thought regarding tomorrow match, I suspect one shouldn't
>> expect a tremendous departure from what we have seen so far from the
>> French, which has been overall quite sobering. Although there is a
>> fair amount of French individual talent on paper and the team
>> appeared to be steadily improving before the ultimate match in
>> qualifications, both defense and offense are unsettled so that I
>> almost wouldn't even characterized them as work in progress. The
>> defense has especially been susceptible to conceeding in the aerial
>> game and I am a little concerned about Abidal in central defense
>> although no more so than for anybody else available for that
>> position. The offense still can't score and although strikers have
>> been the subject of criticism, I feel that distribution is more the
>> problem. Unfortunately, Gourcuff hasn't shown much since the first
>> half of last season and Ribery has rarely produced in a French
>> shirt. As used so far in prep games, the French offense is quite
>> lopsided with a very potent left side (Evra-Malouda-Ribery) that can
>> put fire to anybody's house and a much tamer right side
>> (Sagna-Gourcuff-Govou). I suspect we will see the same line up
>> tomorrow and I hope RD will keep Henry on the bench despite
>> pressures on him to not do so.
>
> That's a very thoughtful write-up. I wish we saw more of this from
> you.

Communication takes place on multiple levels.

>Would you start someone in place of Gourcuff and Govou? Diaby in
> place of the former, perhaps?

Govou may be a little short of what they need. The radical solution would be
to try Ribery on the right, Malouda on the left and Anelka at center
forward, with Diaby-Gourcuff at central mid-field.


From: Jellore on
On Jun 11, 8:49 am, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
> Mehdi wrote:
> > FRANCE
> > have rarely convinced under Domenech, they scraped through to the
> > finals thanks to Henry's cheating
>
> As you ought to know, Given, the Irish keeper cheated ( took Anelka dowen in
> the box) minutes before Henry handled the ball:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vo8OwMBTs
>
> Time for new glasses for Mehdi ...

You must be only person in the world who feels this way. The
embarassment on Henry's face at the end of the game said it all. I
assume you are just trolling.
From: Bob on
Jellore wrote:
> On Jun 11, 8:49 am, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>> Mehdi wrote:
>>> FRANCE
>>> have rarely convinced under Domenech, they scraped through to the
>>> finals thanks to Henry's cheating
>>
>> As you ought to know, Given, the Irish keeper cheated ( took Anelka
>> dowen in
>> the box) minutes before Henry handled the
>> ball:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vo8OwMBTs
>>
>> Time for new glasses for Mehdi ...
>
> You must be only person in the world who feels this way. The
> embarassment on Henry's face at the end of the game said it all. I
> assume you are just trolling.

YOur interpretation of the look on Henry's face against the clear evidence
of Given cheating in the video? ROTFL I think you are the one who is
trolling.