From: Bruce D. Scott on 26 May 2010 09:54 Clarkoo (gables0(a)yahoo.es) wrote: : I think Real Madrid were as relevant to the final or even more than : Bayern Munich. At least our coach and several of our former players : showed up to the match and played in our stadium. No, nobody ever accused you (or Real M) of any realism. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: milivella on 29 May 2010 14:36 Sugano Masa: > > I guess that at some point we'll have to ask: what if a reject (i.e. a > > player that has been sold for a low price because perceived as a > > surplus) plays well *but not enough to be a starter in his former > > team*? Let's take e.g. Ronaldinho: his 2009-10 performances maybe make > > him worth more than 18 million euros (or maybe it's not true, and I've > > chosen the wrong example!), yet he wouldn't qualify as a starter (at > > least not a sure one) for Barca. Is he eligible in our lists? I.e. are > > we counting how much _money_ has a given club lost (having been paid > > less than the player's real value) or how much _talent_ has it lost > > (having sold a player that would now be useful, without receiving in > > exchange enough cash to pay another player of the same value)? Indeed > > I tend to see cases like Roberto Carlos at Inter and Henry at Juve as > > worse than many of the Spanish giants' rebates. > > > Cheers > > milivella > > I recall bringing up the topic of Inter under Moratti selling badly > (as opposed to buying badly), > back when I still used to frequent RSS. Moratti at the beginning was > into buying exotic young > players from around the world, in classic Football Manager novice > style. A few were successes > (Zanetti, Cordoba, Recoba), a lot were rightly cast away (Rambert, > Fresi, West, Luciano, Ze > Elias, Ventola), but many as mentioned were given up prematurely. > > Inter do not have this problem now. The relative decline in the > wealth of Milan and Juve allows > Moratti to snap up the mature 29-30 year olds in Seria A, and since > they are older, they don't > resurface elsewhere as "false positives." > > Let me get back to Juve, though. Selling Henry was not that big a > mistake. Juve had Del Piero > in Trezeguet for most of the next decade, scoring 40 goals a season. > While Henry may have > been a better player than either, the marginal difference between > Henry and either Del Piero > and Trezeguet was not as great as people suggest. Nowhere near as > great as Roberto Carlos > compared with Pistone, Milanese, Georgatos, Gresko.... Yep, you're right. Wrong example by me. :) -- Cheers milivella
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