From: RED DEVIL on 29 Jun 2010 14:03 On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:05:03 -0700, "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> wrote: >MH wrote: >> Manx Gunner wrote: >>> [RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net>] >>> [Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:21:51 -0400] >>> >>>> It's not his country >>> >>> He should drop the 'Sir' silliness, then. >>> >> Why ? A knighthood can be given to many commonwealth citizens as far >> as I know. (Sir Edmund Hilary springs to mind). She is our Queen >> too. >> >> The UK is Alex Ferguson's country of citizenship. England most >> definitely is not. > >Hasn't Scotland been occupied by England for eons? Like an order of >magnitude longer than Latvia has been independent? I know the distinction >matters to Scottish people but from the outside it seems like a matter of >semantics. > The answer is ...no RED DEVIL
From: MH on 29 Jun 2010 13:50 Bob wrote: > RED DEVIL wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:20:49 -0700 (PDT), gsn <gsnarayanan(a)ymail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Jun 29, 11:27 am, RED DEVIL <manutd1...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:12:47 -0700 (PDT), gsn >>>> <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have not been keeping in touch with English football, but >>>>> is there a reason why Alex Ferguson is not considered for England >>>>> coach (with Beckham perhaps as assistant coach)? >>>>> Are there issues like politics, lack of interest on Fergie's part? >>>>> Looks like if anyone, Alex Ferguson can put together a winning >>>>> team. >>>>> gsn >>>> They offered it to him before Erikson and he laughed them off >>>> RED DEVIL >>> >>> Wouldn't do it for country and the Queen ?! >>> >>> gsn >> It's not his country > > It seems like it is for most purpose. > > England is not. The UK is. He would be coaching England, not the UK.
From: Bob on 29 Jun 2010 14:31 MH wrote: > Bob wrote: >> RED DEVIL wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:20:49 -0700 (PDT), gsn >>> <gsnarayanan(a)ymail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Jun 29, 11:27 am, RED DEVIL <manutd1...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:12:47 -0700 (PDT), gsn >>>>> <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have not been keeping in touch with English football, but >>>>>> is there a reason why Alex Ferguson is not considered for England >>>>>> coach (with Beckham perhaps as assistant coach)? >>>>>> Are there issues like politics, lack of interest on Fergie's >>>>>> part? Looks like if anyone, Alex Ferguson can put together a >>>>>> winning team. >>>>>> gsn >>>>> They offered it to him before Erikson and he laughed them off >>>>> RED DEVIL >>>> >>>> Wouldn't do it for country and the Queen ?! >>>> >>>> gsn >>> It's not his country >> >> It seems like it is for most purpose. >> >> > England is not. The UK is. He would be coaching England, not the UK. He doesn't need an English passport to coach England, and he seems very well assimilated and accepted in England so I don't completely see the problem. I could better understand if he was some kind of rebel who advocated independence, but may be I am mistaken and he's a fierce independentist?
From: Bruce D. Scott on 29 Jun 2010 14:32 Bob (Bob(a)Bob.com) wrote: : Hasn't Scotland been occupied by England for eons? Like an order of : magnitude longer than Latvia has been independent? I know the distinction : matters to Scottish people but from the outside it seems like a matter of : semantics. Well it's because they have no idea... Union was 1701. Last uprising was 1780s (MacGregors, a generation after the last uprising usually credited). Domination didn't come until the 19th Century with the establishment of serious infrastructure. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Sven Mischkies on 29 Jun 2010 15:04
Neil Gerace <grassynoel(a)iinet.net.au> wrote: > *skriptis, European Patriot wrote: > > > That would be awesome. Spain, France, Germany have one team, and areas like > > Castille, Aragon, Bavaria, Burgundy had their own "kings" and languages in > > the past..just like Scotland, England... > > Yes, I wonder how The Two Sicilies would go against Savoy :) > > This business of the UK being allowed to field four teams is stupid. The > UK has been one country for far longer than Italy or Germany, to give just > two examples. IFAB needs to be restructured or abolished, too. Italy has been one country since the civil war which ended in 88. BC. Germany has been one country since Henry the Fowler became King of Germany in 919. Both peoples have had Italian and German identities prior to that. Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams |