From: Paul C on
"higgs" <kenhiggs8(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 5:39 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote:
> "higgs" <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> On Jun 6, 12:12 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote:
>
> > "higgs" <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >With that sort of an atitude, no wonder Scotland rarely feature in
> >World Cups.......
>
> Scotland has featured multiple times in the World Cup, including occasions
> when the mighty England with x10 Scotland's footballing resources failed
> to
> make it.

>Indeed, Scotland has featured in 8 of the 19 World Cups, sadly never
>making it past the 1st round.

>The last time Scotland qualified for the WC was 1998 (Coincidentally,
>England were there too).

>So, Scotland appear infrequently in WCs.

I think the word you used was "rarely". Qualifying 9 times and participating
8 times in 16 competitions doesn't make qualifying a rare event.

>I think I was quite correct ion pointing out that 1950 was yet another
>WC where the only Scotish representation was via a 3rd party.

And I was correct in pointing out that Scotland qualified for the 1950 WC.


From: gsn on
On Jun 6, 5:30 am, higgs <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 6, 5:39 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote:
>
> > "higgs" <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:b05c7ec9-1afa-4489-af41-429f9e3cd52d(a)n37g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 6, 12:12 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote:
>
> > > "higgs" <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >With that sort of an atitude, no wonder Scotland rarely feature in
> > >World Cups.......
>
> > Scotland has featured multiple times in the World Cup, including occasions
> > when the mighty England with x10 Scotland's footballing resources failed to
> > make it.
>
> Indeed, Scotland has featured in 8 of the 19 World Cups, sadly never
> making it past the 1st round.
>
> The last time Scotland qualified for the WC was 1998 (Coincidentally,
> England were there too).
>
> So, Scotland appear infrequently in WCs.
>
> I think I was quite correct ion pointing out that 1950 was yet another
> WC where the only Scotish representation was via a 3rd party.

I think Paul C is quite right about Scottish influence in WC wins.
Considering that Brazil has most championships and the origins of
Brazilian football (as well as style of play) are inspired/influenced
by Scots.
From: El Kot on
gsn wrote:
>
> I think Paul C is quite right about Scottish influence in WC wins.
> Considering that Brazil has most championships and the origins of
> Brazilian football (as well as style of play) are inspired/influenced
> by Scots.

Wha? Since when do the Hungarians have Scottish origins?
:)

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From: Binder Dundat on
On Jun 6, 2:36 pm, El Kot <nono.black.e...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> gsn wrote:
>
> > I think Paul C is quite right about Scottish influence in WC wins.
> > Considering that Brazil has most championships and the origins of
> > Brazilian football (as well as style of play)  are inspired/influenced
> > by Scots.
>
>      Wha?  Since when do the Hungarians have Scottish origins?
> :)
>
> --
> No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono.

The USA beat Spain last year so they could beat England (or anyone) as
well.
From: MH on
Bruce D. Scott wrote:
> MH (MHnospam(a)ucalgary.ca) wrote:
> : Mark V. wrote:
>
> : > perhaps more than CZE-GHA '06.
>
> : I hesitated about that one, but the Czechs were so good in Euro 04 (and
> : would have been worthy winners) and had just taken the US apart in the
> : first game, so this was quite a big surprise to me. Ghana had looked
> : so-so against a very indifferent Italian team.
>
> But that's deceptive... the US entered the first match mentally
> unprepared, scandalously so (I was at the match, could see the whole
> field). Besides we couldn't defend against good wing play anyway.
> Then, Koller pulled his hamstring. So I think it was a combination of
> CZ looking better than they were against a USA side who were playing
> worse then they were in that match, and also CZ being seriously weakened
> before the Ghana match. Ghana were playing to their maximum potential
> in all three matches, so I agree with Mark that the GHA-CZ victory was
> not that great an upset, even if it was a mild one.

The Czechs were ranked no 2 in the world in the 2006 May FIFA rankings.
Ghana had never won a WC match, though they had a decent tradition at
junior level and ANC.
>
> The USA over England would be a pretty big upset, but not among the
> really shocking ones. No more so than over Portugal in 2002. Just in
> the present circumstances... England are a lot more resilient under
> Capello than recently otherwise.
>
> --
> ciao,
> Bruce
>
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