England beatable by US?
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From: higgs on 5 Jun 2010 09:35 On Jun 5, 7:13 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > "higgs" <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:f4d41327-97a5-49e9-a41a-209989899fb2(a)z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 5, 5:58 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > > > "gsn" <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote in message > > >news:63298d4c-ba68-4883-b13a-a28eef4e93a0(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > > > England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs > > > England. > > > In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only the > > > third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins more > > > often than not. > > > So it looks like it is possible to beat England (or atleast split > > > points)? > > > Yes it's possible. Remember 1950 when the USA team (captained and managed > > by > > Scots) beat England. > > Yet another WC where the only Scotish representation was via a 3rd > party > > Scotland qualified for the 1950 World Cup. Yes, by placing 2nd behind England in the Home Internationals. However, you obviously missed it the first time,so I'll repeat: Yet another WC where the only Scottish representatrion was via a 3rd party.
From: Alkamista on 5 Jun 2010 09:44 On Jun 4, 10:59 pm, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 4, 3:58 pm, MH <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > > > On 2010-06-04, MH <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote: > > >> Of course not. On paper, this England team are no better than Portugal > > >> of 2002 (Portugal qualified first out of a tough group with Netherlands > > >> and Ireland, and had done well in Euro 2000, including putting out > > >> England and Germany) > > > > How do they compare to the Polish from the same WC? > > > Well, Poland did have a very strong qualifying campaign for 2002, but I > > don't think many of us thought they were as good as Portugal. I for one > > expected the US to finish last in that group. Which they might well do > > this time, too, but I would certainly not bet on it. > > > The USA beating England at this WC would not, in my view, be among the > > biggest world cup upsets of all time. Probably not even top 5, possibly > > not even top 10. > > > In no particular order (except chronological), here are some that were > > possibly bigger: > > > USA 1-0 England 1950 > > Mexico 3-1 Czechoslovakia 1962 > > N. Korea 1-0 Italy 1966 > > Algeria 2-1 W. Germany 1982 > > N. Ireland 1-0 Spain 1982 > > Morocco 3-1 Portugal 1986 > > Cameroon 1-0 Argentina 1990 > > Costa Rica 1-0 Scotland 1990 > > Senegal 1-0 France 2002 > > USA 3-2 Portugal 2002 > > Czech Republic 0-2 Ghana 2006 > > I think that Saudi Arabia 1-0 Belgium 1994 belongs on here somewhere, > perhaps more than CZE-GHA '06.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I would definitely take CZE-GHA '06 off that list. Top African teams beating good European teams hardly count as upsets anymore.
From: Jesper Lauridsen on 5 Jun 2010 09:52 On 2010-06-05, Mark V. <markvanderv1(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I think that Saudi Arabia 1-0 Belgium 1994 belongs on here somewhere, > perhaps more than CZE-GHA '06. Absolutely. A huge shock given how Asian teams usually performs and how Saudi Arabia has performed since (0-2-8).
From: Paul C on 5 Jun 2010 10:12 "higgs" <kenhiggs8(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:a9e9341e-6379-4df8-b36d-3f92cf35fdba(a)23g2000pre.googlegroups.com... On Jun 5, 7:13 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > "higgs" <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:f4d41327-97a5-49e9-a41a-209989899fb2(a)z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 5, 5:58 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > > > "gsn" <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote in message > > >news:63298d4c-ba68-4883-b13a-a28eef4e93a0(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > > > England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs > > > England. > > > In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only the > > > third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins more > > > often than not. > > > So it looks like it is possible to beat England (or atleast split > > > points)? > > > Yes it's possible. Remember 1950 when the USA team (captained and > > managed > > by > > Scots) beat England. > > Yet another WC where the only Scotish representation was via a 3rd > party > > Scotland qualified for the 1950 World Cup. Yes, by placing 2nd behind England in the Home Internationals. However, you obviously missed it the first time,so I'll repeat: Yet another WC where the only Scottish representatrion was via a 3rd party. Because they chose not to take up their qualification - very prescient given England's subsequent humiliation - wouldn't you agree higgsy boy?
From: Chagney Hunt on 5 Jun 2010 10:48
On Jun 5, 10:12 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > Because they chose not to take up their qualification - very prescient > given England's subsequent humiliation - wouldn't you agree higgsy boy? Where has that prescience gone in the subsequent World Cup? :-) |