England beatable by US?
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From: Bruce D. Scott on 5 Jun 2010 00:40 Yo Merito (yomerito(a)gawab.com) wrote: : gsn <gsnarayanan(a)ymail.com> writes: : > England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs : > England. In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only : > the third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins : > more often than not. So it looks like it is possible to beat England : > (or atleast split points)? : thanks for the laugh ;-) You'll wait 60 years for your first chance at revenge in a World Cup just like the English did :-) -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Paul C on 5 Jun 2010 03:58 "gsn" <gsnarayanan(a)ymail.com> wrote in message news:63298d4c-ba68-4883-b13a-a28eef4e93a0(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs > England. > In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only the > third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins more > often than not. > So it looks like it is possible to beat England (or atleast split > points)? Yes it's possible. Remember 1950 when the USA team (captained and managed by Scots) beat England.
From: higgs on 5 Jun 2010 05:06 On Jun 5, 5:58 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > "gsn" <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote in message > > news:63298d4c-ba68-4883-b13a-a28eef4e93a0(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > > England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs > > England. > > In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only the > > third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins more > > often than not. > > So it looks like it is possible to beat England (or atleast split > > points)? > > Yes it's possible. Remember 1950 when the USA team (captained and managed by > Scots) beat England. Yet another WC where the only Scotish representation was via a 3rd party
From: Paul C on 5 Jun 2010 05:13 "higgs" <kenhiggs8(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f4d41327-97a5-49e9-a41a-209989899fb2(a)z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com... On Jun 5, 5:58 pm, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > "gsn" <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote in message > > news:63298d4c-ba68-4883-b13a-a28eef4e93a0(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > > England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs > > England. > > In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only the > > third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins more > > often than not. > > So it looks like it is possible to beat England (or atleast split > > points)? > > Yes it's possible. Remember 1950 when the USA team (captained and managed > by > Scots) beat England. Yet another WC where the only Scotish representation was via a 3rd party Scotland qualified for the 1950 World Cup.
From: Mike Babyak on 5 Jun 2010 08:02
Paul C wrote: > > "gsn" <gsnarayanan(a)ymail.com> wrote in message > news:63298d4c-ba68-4883-b13a-a28eef4e93a0(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs >> England. >> In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only the >> third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins more >> often than not. >> So it looks like it is possible to beat England (or atleast split >> points)? > > Yes it's possible. Remember 1950 when the USA team (captained and > managed by Scots) beat England. Yes, managed and captained by Scots, but the foreign influence on that team is often quite overstated. Here is the squad with birthplaces. There were five foreign-born players on the entire squad, but only two on the team that played against England, Gaetjens, and McIlvenny. USA Squad vs England 1950 Walter Bahr Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Frank Borghi St. Louis, Missouri Charlie Colombo St. Louis, Missouri Joe Gaetjens Port-au-Prince, Haiti Harry Keough St Louis, Missouri Joe Maca Massapequa, New York Ed McIlvenny Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Gino Pariani St. Louis, Missouri Ed Souza Fall River, Massachusetts John Souza Fall River, Massachusetts Frank Wallace St. Louis, Missouri Subs Robert Annis St Louis, Missouri Adam Wolanin Lwow, Poland Gino Gardassanich Fiume, Italy Geoff Coombes Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Robert Craddock Lawrenceville, Pennsylvania Nicholas DiOrio Morgan Township, Pennsylvania Although a good player, McIlvenny's captaincy apparently was more caprice than merit. From: http://national.soccerhall.org/ColinJose/The%20Real%20Story%20about%20the%201950%20U.S.%20World%20Cup%20Team.htm "Oddly enough the United States used a different captain in each of the three games. Harry Keough, against Spain, "because he spoke Spanish", Ed McIlvenny against England, "because he was British" and Walter Bahr, against Chile, "because he was the real captain." |