England beatable by US?
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From: Chagney Hunt on 4 Jun 2010 12:31 On Jun 4, 12:18 pm, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote: > "Dwight Beers" <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > If the US goes into half time with a 2 goal lead, which is very possible, > > especially if we start with our 5 best current players (Dempsey, Donovan, > > Torres, Buddle, Gomez), and then come out of half time with the attitude > > that we need to score two more goals--and not with an attitude that says we > > need to defend a two goal lead--then 4-0 is not only possible, but > > probable. Remember, you heard it here first!!:-) > > I'd say you've been smoking the wrong sort of leaves! Whatever the merits of > England or the USA, thinking the USA are going to win the match 4-0 is pure > madness. > > I could see a draw though... England has no decent goal keeper = any shot in the general direction is a goal. No Rio, hence no defense either = no one to prevent those shots. 8-0 to the US easily.
From: MH on 4 Jun 2010 12:47 Mark V. wrote: > On Jun 4, 6:45 am, Real Mardin <real_mar...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> On Jun 4, 2:37 pm, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 06/04/2010 06:22 AM, gsn wrote: >>>> England could not score against Japan. Also Mexico had a good game vs >>>> England. >>>> In CONCAF , as Dwight said in another thread, Mexico is only the >>>> third best team. The US usually plays better than Mexico and wins more >>>> often than not. >>>> So it looks like it is possible to beat England (or atleast split >>>> points)? >>>> - gsn >>> If the US goes into half time with a 2 goal lead, >> Right....... >> >>> which is very >>> possible, >> Yes? Is it really? >> >>> especially if we start with our 5 best current players >>> (Dempsey, Donovan, Torres, Buddle, Gomez), and then come out of half >>> time with the attitude that we need to score two more goals--and not >>> with an attitude that says we need to defend a two goal lead--then 4-0 >>> is not only possible, but probable. Remember, you heard it here first!!:-) >> Quite. >> >> Budweiser or Miller today? >> >> RM > > Dwight has always struck me as the type who'd prefer a nice cold > Bitburger. > > The US will need all the help it can get from the woodwork, but a > victory is not mission impossible. Of course not. On paper, this England team are no better than Portugal of 2002 (Portugal qualified first out of a tough group with Netherlands and Ireland, and had done well in Euro 2000, including putting out England and Germany) That being said, the defense is > extremely vulnerable. If you don't want to put too much stock in > tinker-time tune-up Turkish friendlies, just compare their 13 goals > ceded in the CONCACAF hex vs. 6 in the last WC cycle. >
From: Insane Ranter on 4 Jun 2010 13:04 It all comes down to who second the first goal and then who scores the second and how the teams deal with it.
From: KaiserD2 on 4 Jun 2010 14:07 On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:31:42 -0700 (PDT), Chagney Hunt <essetm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Jun 4, 12:18�pm, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote: >> "Dwight Beers" <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > If the US goes into half time with a 2 goal lead, which is very possible, >> > especially if we start with our 5 best current players (Dempsey, Donovan, >> > Torres, Buddle, Gomez), and then come out of half time with the attitude >> > that we need to score two more goals--and not with an attitude that says we >> > need to defend a two goal lead--then 4-0 is not only possible, but >> > probable. �Remember, you heard it here first!!:-) >> >> I'd say you've been smoking the wrong sort of leaves! Whatever the merits of >> England or the USA, thinking the USA are going to win the match 4-0 is pure >> madness. >> >> I could see a draw though... > >England has no decent goal keeper = any shot in the general direction >is a goal. > >No Rio, hence no defense either = no one to prevent those shots. > >8-0 to the US easily. Meanwhile, back on planet earth. . .I admit I haven't seen much of the US until recently but based on the last two friendlies I am not hopeful at all. The first half against Turkey was an incredible embarrassment for the forwards, even if Dempsey did produce a nice goal in the second. They defended against themselves. DK
From: Jesper Lauridsen on 4 Jun 2010 17:54
On 2010-06-04, MH <MHnospam(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote: > > Of course not. On paper, this England team are no better than Portugal > of 2002 (Portugal qualified first out of a tough group with Netherlands > and Ireland, and had done well in Euro 2000, including putting out > England and Germany) How do they compare to the Polish from the same WC? |