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From: Sid on 27 Jun 2010 11:53
* Bruce D. Scott [2010-06-27 10:50] [rec.sport.soccer]:
> Bruce D. Scott (bds(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de) wrote:
>: Sid (sid(a)invalid_nerte.invalid.invalid_net.invalid) wrote:
>: : > Don't forget, what Germany see is a chance to equal/avenge the 5-1
>: : > loss in Munich which was after all a WC qualifier.
>: : Do they? From the team + bench that day, only Klose is in this game.
>: More significantly, Schweini, Mueller, and Klose are out now...
> Well I had it wrong Schweini was still in to the end, and was playing
> like he wanted the 5-1 (he is from Rosenheim, just down the road towards
It could have been 5-1, absolutely, or more.
>: I think for players who grew up in the Munich area there would have
>: been. Gomez donkey-kicking his chance away ended it for today though.
>: I maintain: 4-1 is a totally deserved result.
> And so it ends!
Absolutely. Apart from the end of the first half, Germany was the
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From: Bob on 27 Jun 2010 12:00
Bruce D. Scott wrote:
> Alessandro Riolo (alessandro.riolo(a)gmail.com) wrote:
>> "Bruce D. Scott" <bds(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de> wrote in message
>>> Suddenly England have the play... a Webmleytor!!! ball over the
>>> line I thought but no. ..
>> It was over the line, big way.
>>> The goal was in by 2 meters! England totally ripped off!
>> Yep, but then, the principle of reciprocity has been at the
>> cornerstone of the indoeuropean conversation probably since its own
>> inception ;)
> What a fine way to put it!
> This is something the Americans will _never_ understand. (Commentary
> shows it, as on TV, as in the blogs, as on Usenet.) But it really is
> better that the referee is part of the game.
No, it isn't. Especially that now the entire planet can see almost
everything. Football will have to adapt to technological advances.
> England have to do what we did in our matches... go forward, go
From: Mehdi on 27 Jun 2010 12:06
> Subject : Deutschland - Englaland [R]
> From : wanyikuli(a)gmail.com
> I'm considering whether to just not read any English press until the
> quarterfinals. Kind of know how the French and Italian fans feel now!
Not really. They've won the World Cup recently and will be a major force
in the next tournament. England won't.
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From: Diabolik on 27 Jun 2010 12:07
"Manx Gunner" <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote in message
> [SHUSSBAR <shussbar(a)gmail.com>]
> [Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:59:01 -0700 (PDT)]
> : On Jun 27, 9:38 am, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:
> : > Now the German back line gets destroyed on a short free kick cross,
> : > Upson heads it in and it is but 2-1 at 37'
> : >
> : > Suddenly England have the play... a Webmleytor!!! ball over the line I
> : > thought but no. Now Germany go back, and Plodi barely misses! What a
> : > match!
> : >
> : > The goal was in by 2 meters! England totally ripped off!
> : >
> : Well, barely a meter but I did not even need a replay to see that.
> : Gotta love soccer.
> Gotta love the hypocrites on the BBC. When the USA were screwed over -
> TWICE - they all tutted at the outrage and said 'That's football, and
> the Americans just don't get that the referee is part of the game.'
> Now, with England screwed, suddenly things have changed. Heh.
The difference is this is one of the biggest screw ups in WC.
From: Manx Gunner on 27 Jun 2010 12:08
[Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:07:11 GMT]
: > Gotta love the hypocrites on the BBC. When the USA were screwed over -
: > TWICE - they all tutted at the outrage and said 'That's football, and
: > the Americans just don't get that the referee is part of the game.'
: > Now, with England screwed, suddenly things have changed. Heh.
: The difference is this is one of the biggest screw ups in WC.
The one against the USA altered a result by 2 points.
The one today didn't alter the outcome.
"Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they
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