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From: Sven Mischkies on 3 Mar 2010 12:51
On Mar 3, 4:13 pm, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 5:37 pm, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
>
> > Headlines: Derby-week: Ruhr, Rhein, Niedersachsen (ok, I don't know if anyone
> > cares about the last one). After 28 points in the last 10 matches,
>
> Really are the Mancs of Germany, no?


Or the Juventus, or the Real.


> How frustrating will it be if Leverkusen lose after going undefeated.


They must not. The record for the most games without defeat is still
HSV's.


> Sven used to derisively refer to them as the pharmacy,


It is not derisively, it is the truth. I called them the commercial,
btw, because that is the sole purpose of their existence, as stated in
their record in our equivalent of the house of companies..


» I don't know if
> they still have that stigma of being bland, lifeless club.


They are not a club.


> I'll root for Schalke, because Magath is a badass (I mean winning the
> Bundesliga with WOLFSBURG?)


Yes, Schalke would be fun. Their last title was in the 50s... It would
be like Newcastle winning in England, both clubs have a few things in
common.
But it won't happen. The title is Bayern's.


> > 11 VfL Wolfsburg        31      -4      41-45
>
> Interesting how that can happen in some leagues.  A complete drop off
> like that.


Well they should never have won in the first place. Just like their
mother company they stand for blandness and mediocrity and are simply
back to normal.


Ciao,
SM
From: Jesper Lauridsen on 3 Mar 2010 13:19
On 2010-03-03, Binder Dundat <dundat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would say Schalke have the hardest games of the three.

They all have to visit Frankfurt and play Stuttgart (Bayer away).
In the internal matches Bayer are 2xhome and Bayern 2xaway. Bayer
has HSV (H) and Dortmund (A). Schalke has HSV (A) and Werder (H)


> I will not count Werder out of the top 3 yet.

I would. It's 10 points with 10 games left. Assume, very
generously, that Werder wins 25 points in the next 10 games.
Then Schalke would have to drop 15 drop points - that's
half the points they're playing for.
From: Sven Mischkies on 3 Mar 2010 13:42
On Mar 3, 6:19 pm, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
> On 2010-03-03, Binder Dundat <dun...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I would say Schalke have the hardest games of the three.
>
> They all have to visit Frankfurt and play Stuttgart (Bayer away).
> In the internal matches Bayer are 2xhome and Bayern 2xaway. Bayer
> has HSV (H) and Dortmund (A). Schalke has HSV (A) and Werder (H)
>
> > I will not count Werder out of the top 3 yet.
>
> I would. It's 10 points with 10 games left. Assume, very
> generously, that Werder wins 25 points in the next 10 games.
> Then Schalke would have to drop 15 drop points - that's
> half the points they're playing for.


Ah, but that's not how football fans calculate.
It's more like this:
"Essentially it boils down to the game between us and them. To succeed
we must win that one. Therefore we assume we do."
--» Now it's 7 points in 9 games.
"Addiionally we both play HSV. It is our home derby, and we lost the
away derby, therefore we will beat them. Schalke, on the other hand,
traditionally struggles against Hamburg. They won't get anything from
that game. Well, HSV struggles to finish their oponents off, so make
tht a 1-1 draw."
--» Now it's 5 points in 8 games
"So we to make 5 points good on them in 8 games. That won't be easy,
but if the team finally gets their asses up they'll do it. They
should. Ah, our fantastic midfield. It will be easy."


Or so.


Ciao,
SM
From: Bruce D. Scott on 4 Mar 2010 13:53
Sven Mischkies (hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net) wrote:

: Ah, but that's not how football fans calculate.
: It's more like this:
: "Essentially it boils down to the game between us and them. To succeed
: we must win that one. Therefore we assume we do."
: --=BB Now it's 7 points in 9 games.
: "Addiionally we both play HSV. It is our home derby, and we lost the
: away derby, therefore we will beat them. Schalke, on the other hand,
: traditionally struggles against Hamburg. They won't get anything from
: that game. Well, HSV struggles to finish their oponents off, so make
: tht a 1-1 draw."
: --=BB Now it's 5 points in 8 games
: "So we to make 5 points good on them in 8 games. That won't be easy,
: but if the team finally gets their asses up they'll do it. They
: should. Ah, our fantastic midfield. It will be easy."


: Or so.

:-)

Not only Hope, it's also Fear that dies last!


--
ciao,
Bruce

drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Matthias Mühlich on 4 Mar 2010 14:01
MH schrieb:
> Plus, even if two teams do pass them, they are still in the relegation
> playoff , and I don't fancy any of Augsburg, Bielefeld, Düsseldorf,
> or St. Pauli vs those two, battle hardened relegation fighters than they
> are.

Düsseldorf vs Köln would be a nice derby. Anything could happen then.

BTW: Last year, the "battle hardened relegation fighters" from Cottbus
clearly lost the relegation play-off versus Nürnberg.
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