Brazil - NL QF Thoughts
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From: Mehdi on 1 Jul 2010 15:19 > Subject : Brazil - NL QF Thoughts > From : KaiserD2(a)gmail.com > Best Dutch team since 1990? The 1990 team sucked! The 1998-2000 > team was great and how they lost Euro 2000 is still utterly beyond me. > DK Collectively yes but individually they were ten levels above this Dutch side and many levels above every other side in this tournament. -- http://soccer-europe.com Rss feed : http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml
From: Mehdi on 1 Jul 2010 15:21 > Subject : Brazil - NL QF Thoughts > From : jknapp(a)oacpc.com > I can understand what folks are saying, but I disagree. The Dutch have > played an extremely controlled, patient game, and have improved with > each game. They also have probably the best defense I think they've > brought to a tournament in a long time. Also, this team has a better > mentality than previous Dutch teams: basically, "winners, not whiners". > They also are being well-coached so far. Have yet to face a team with great forwards. -- http://soccer-europe.com Rss feed : http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml
From: JK on 1 Jul 2010 16:06 Mehdi wrote: > > Subject : Brazil - NL QF Thoughts > > From : KaiserD2(a)gmail.com > > > Best Dutch team since 1990? The 1990 team sucked! The 1998-2000 > > team was great and how they lost Euro 2000 is still utterly beyond me. > > DK > > Collectively yes but individually they were ten levels above this Dutch > side and many levels above every other side in this tournament. Yes, basically, that's my point. (I'm assuming you're referring to the 1990 team.) Since 1990, with the exception of 1998, Dutch teams have been fragile hothouse flowers. I think this edition is different.
From: MH on 1 Jul 2010 15:52 JK wrote: > Abubakr wrote: >> On Jul 2, 1:07 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: >>> "JK" <jkn...(a)oacpc.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:i0i7rf$1df$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>>> 1) Ideally this would be a SF as I think Brazil, NL, Spain, Arg are the >>>> four best teams. >>>> 2) This NL side is very, very good, maybe their best team since 1990, >>>> certainly the most balanced...but still not as good as Brazil. >>> I don't think the Netherlands have been at all impressive. They are a >>> class >>> below Germany, Brazil and Argentina on the evidence of the games >>> played so >>> far. >> >> And below Spain too. The Dutch play has been excruciatingly painful >> to watch - like a slightly better and more efficient err...Slovakia. > > > I can understand what folks are saying, but I disagree. The Dutch have > played an extremely controlled, patient game, and have improved with > each game. They also have probably the best defense I think they've > brought to a tournament in a long time. Also, this team has a better > mentality than previous Dutch teams: basically, "winners, not whiners". > They also are being well-coached so far. The last part is interesting and probably true. Bert Van Marwijk must be the lowest profile coach they have had in Donkey's ages, and hasn't that illustrious a track record, but he seems to be doing the job right.
From: JK on 1 Jul 2010 16:53
MH wrote: > JK wrote: >> Abubakr wrote: >>> On Jul 2, 1:07 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: >>>> "JK" <jkn...(a)oacpc.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:i0i7rf$1df$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>>> 1) Ideally this would be a SF as I think Brazil, NL, Spain, Arg are >>>>> the >>>>> four best teams. >>>>> 2) This NL side is very, very good, maybe their best team since 1990, >>>>> certainly the most balanced...but still not as good as Brazil. >>>> I don't think the Netherlands have been at all impressive. They are >>>> a class >>>> below Germany, Brazil and Argentina on the evidence of the games >>>> played so >>>> far. >>> >>> And below Spain too. The Dutch play has been excruciatingly painful >>> to watch - like a slightly better and more efficient err...Slovakia. >> >> >> I can understand what folks are saying, but I disagree. The Dutch >> have played an extremely controlled, patient game, and have improved >> with each game. They also have probably the best defense I think >> they've brought to a tournament in a long time. Also, this team has >> a better mentality than previous Dutch teams: basically, "winners, not >> whiners". They also are being well-coached so far. > > The last part is interesting and probably true. Bert Van Marwijk must > be the lowest profile coach they have had in Donkey's ages, and hasn't > that illustrious a track record, but he seems to be doing the job right. > When you think about it, given their track record, it makes a lot of sense for the Netherlands to hire a coach who WON'T be a lightening rod for controversy and who people don't have a lot of pre-formed opinions about. Perhaps one more example of how they're emulating the Germans :) (Seriously, isn't Low pretty, um low-profile for German NT manager, at least compared with previous coaches. I never heard of him before WC 06.) |