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From: Jesper Lauridsen on 25 Jun 2010 13:16 On 2010-06-24, Dwight Beers <hdbeers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/24/2010 06:09 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >> >> And even if there was a goal line and an end line, what significance would >> that have for an offside call? I really can't make sense of Dwight here. >> > I'll try this one more time then: > > Think of Smeltz's position as letter A in a triangle ABC, > and then think of the point where the goal line intersects with the > left goal post as letter B, > and then think of the point where the goal line intersects with the > right goal post as letter C. > > Thus: > > ---B---------gk--------C_________(endline)___________________D(C Flag) > > > A (Smeltz) > > Now, when the ball was struck where were the Italian defenders? > It seems to me perfectly clear that all of them were either on or within > the triangle ABC. > > Further, if everyone of the defenders had been within the triangle ACD, > he WOULD have been offside. You don't understand the offside rule. There is NO difference between your triangles ABC and ACD when I comes to judging offside. A defender at the corner flag is just as significant as a defender at a goal post.
From: Dwight Beers on 25 Jun 2010 16:56 On 06/25/2010 10:16 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >> > On 06/24/2010 06:09 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: What advantage would he (A) obtain from his position if a defender were within the ACD triangle, say at the corner flag? Isn't it plain to you yet, that he WOULD obtain an advantage if all the defenders, except possibly the goalkeeper, were outside the ABC triangle?
From: Alessandro Riolo on 25 Jun 2010 18:39 "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorschak(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message news:i02o9d$h9p$7(a)news.eternal-september.org... > ... A defender > at the corner flag is just as significant as a defender at a goal post. Yep, but what about that goal scored from Ruud van Nistelrooy that Peter Fr�jdfeldt and Stefan Wittberg allowed, a decision supported afterwards from UEFA, while Christian Panucci was laying down off the pitch beyond the line? -- ale http://ale.riolo.co.uk
From: Joachim Parsch on 28 Jun 2010 03:28 Dwight Beers schrieb: > > On 06/25/2010 10:16 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > >> > On 06/24/2010 06:09 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > > What advantage would he (A) obtain from his position if a defender were > within the ACD triangle, say at the corner flag? > > Isn't it plain to you yet, that he WOULD obtain an advantage if all the > defenders, except possibly the goalkeeper, were outside the ABC triangle? Yes, he would gain an advantage. And he would not be offside, if the defenders would hold their annual meeting beside the corner flag. That's the rule. Two defenders inside the triangle ACD make the attacker onside, just as two defenders (or one defender + goalie) in the triangle ABC do. There is simply no difference for the offside rule. Joachim
From: Joachim Parsch on 28 Jun 2010 03:28
Alessandro Riolo schrieb: > > "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorschak(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message > news:i02o9d$h9p$7(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > ... A defender > > at the corner flag is just as significant as a defender at a goal post. > > Yep, but what about that goal scored from Ruud van Nistelrooy that Peter > Fr�jdfeldt and Stefan Wittberg allowed, a decision supported afterwards from > UEFA, while Christian Panucci was laying down off the pitch beyond the line? Indeed, a defender behind the goal line is still in play and makes the attacker onside. Only atttacking players can be "passive" (by not taking part in the play or waiting behind the goal line). Joachim |