Ballack out of WC
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From: Binder Dundat on 18 May 2010 10:37 On May 18, 3:26 am, Joachim Parsch <s...(a)bunuel.franken.de> wrote: > MH schrieb: > > > > > JK wrote: > [Ballack] > > > I'm not so sure. In 2006, he largely played as a DM (whether that was > > > his assignment or not, I don't know, but watching the games it was clear > > > that's the role he was playing) and he did an excellent job. I thought > > > he was one of Germany's best players. I don't know that would have > > > been the case this time around, but I think he can still contribute to > > > the national team, but not in the same manner he did in the early 2000s. > > > I assume he and Schweinsteiger were supposed to play in central > > midfield, with Marin and Özil, perhaps, in further forward and wider > > positions. Ballack must have been penciled in as largely defensive, > > given that Rolfes was not available and Frings not picked. The most > > viable alternative in the squad now would appear to be Khedira. > > ... and so it will be, anything else would be a surprise now. > It's still debatable, if those two are enough. Other candidates > in the squad are Träsch (unexperienced) and Westermann (normally > a defender). Kroos is also an alternative - could be something > in between a 4231 and a 4141 then: > > Lahm Mertesacker Westermann ??? Arne is looking more likely to be in the team, possibly even as captain now? Westermann is not too bad attacking but a bad defensive player so i doubt he gets to start? Always the "good brother" Boateng as well. > > Schweinsteiger > > Marin Özil Kroos Podolski i am not convinced that Loew will start Marin, or even Kroos for that matter? Probably go with Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Jansen if he is fit, Trochowski or possibly Kheidiera? > > Klose Podolski and klose up front. Though I think Cacau may see a lot of action? I think Loew is a pretty conservative coach and will not make too many changes. Though i do hope I am wrong. My idea of an exciting team would be Lahm Mertesaker Boateng Beck Ozil Kroos Schweinsteiger Trochowski/Marin Podolski Kiessling > > Just a bit more attacking than the scheme with > Khedira and Schw. and Marin Özil Podolski in front > of them. > > Joachim
From: Crisstti on 18 May 2010 22:16 On 17 mayo, 15:06, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > Boateng may very well have done it on pursose with the objective of > >> > taking him out of the World Cup. They are in the same group. > >> > I don't understand why FIFA hasn't done something about this kind of > >> > thing. Boateng (and any player who injures someone else) whould be > >> > out of the game as long as Ballack is. > > >> Sounds fair, but what happens if Ballack is forced into retirement?- > >> Ocultar texto de la cita - > > >> - Mostrar texto de la cita - > > > I suggest a pre-established period. Say, 1 year out... though it > > should depend on the malice that can be safely assumed. If he wanted > > to injure him that badly as to force him into retirement (Keane comes > > ti mind), I don't think it's unfair to forbid that player isn't > > allowed to play anymore...). And a civil lawsuit, for damages. > > A year is what I was thinking too, sounds right to me, now lets get others > to go with it too!!!- Ocultar texto de la cita - > > - Mostrar texto de la cita - LOL, yeah. Isn't that done in other sports?.
From: Crisstti on 18 May 2010 22:17 Interestingly, Ballack seems to think that the whole thing might indeed give Germany a boost: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Sports/Events-Tournaments/FIFA-World-Cup/Top-stories/Germany-strong-enough-without-me-Ballack/articleshow/5946313.cms And a very good article about it: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/sports/soccer/19iht-SOCCER.html
From: Raja, The Great on 18 May 2010 23:25 On May 17, 11:17 am, Crisstti <crissttigalda...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 17 mayo, 09:31, Binder Dundat <dun...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 17, 8:39 am, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > "Joachim Parsch" <s...(a)bunuel.franken.de> wrote in message > > > >news:4BF13751.EA34BF25(a)bunuel.franken.de... > > > > > Hello, > > > > > KP Boateng's blood tackle was not hard enough to break Ballack's > > > > leg, but it was still "good" enough to take Ballack out of the WC: > > > > <http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17052010/58/world-cup-2010-injured-ball...> > > > > > For the benefit of all children reading this, I won't say, > > > > what I think of KP Boateng. > > > > > Joachim > > > > A boost for Australia, but a damaging outcome for the tournament, it may > > > well have ended his international career at a WC level, lets hope for a > > > miracle recovery, the tournament lacks when the big stars are not in it. > > > > KPB, will be there with Ghana, I now suggest a spiteful match between > > > Germany and Ghana!!! > > > I doubt it will come to that? > > > Adler out, Rolfes out now Ballack, all would of been starters. > > > I have to say it, I am not a big fan of Ballack's and I dont think he > > will be missed? In fact this is good news for Germany actually winning > > the World Cup now! I associate ballack with always finishing second? > > If anything it forces Loew to use younger players which will be good > > for the national team in 2014 and 2018 . > > I do feel sorry for Ballack, since this was probably his last chance > > to win anything with Germany and missing out on a World cup weeks > > before it starts too. I was reading that the game was pretty dirty and > > that the Ref was letting a lot go? Of course the player who fouled him > > is the Ghanaian German so that make it even more interesting? > > > So without Ballack the midfield has Schweisteiger (with Scweinie now > > playing the Ballack role) Oezil if he is not playing forward, but he > > will be the attacking mid, then you have two from Trochowski, Marin, > > Kroos or possibly Podolski playing wide middle and Khedira as the > > defensive midfielder? I would not bring Frings back in the team, > > though it may happen? Always have Borowski as well???? > > > So who becomes the new captain? > > Klose, except he may not be a starter? > > Has to be Mertesaker, Lahm or Schweinsteiger. > > I think Lahm should be the captain. He is Germany's best player, as > far as I'm concerned. I was about to say the same thing. And it is a good idea to not have a scoring midfielder like Bastian or a striker like Podolski/Klose as the team captain.
From: Crisstti on 19 May 2010 15:47
On 18 mayo, 23:25, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 17, 11:17 am, Crisstti <crissttigalda...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 17 mayo, 09:31, Binder Dundat <dun...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 17, 8:39 am, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > > "Joachim Parsch" <s...(a)bunuel.franken.de> wrote in message > > > > >news:4BF13751.EA34BF25(a)bunuel.franken.de... > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > KP Boateng's blood tackle was not hard enough to break Ballack's > > > > > leg, but it was still "good" enough to take Ballack out of the WC: > > > > > <http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17052010/58/world-cup-2010-injured-ball...> > > > > > > For the benefit of all children reading this, I won't say, > > > > > what I think of KP Boateng. > > > > > > Joachim > > > > > A boost for Australia, but a damaging outcome for the tournament, it may > > > > well have ended his international career at a WC level, lets hope for a > > > > miracle recovery, the tournament lacks when the big stars are not in it. > > > > > KPB, will be there with Ghana, I now suggest a spiteful match between > > > > Germany and Ghana!!! > > > > I doubt it will come to that? > > > > Adler out, Rolfes out now Ballack, all would of been starters. > > > > I have to say it, I am not a big fan of Ballack's and I dont think he > > > will be missed? In fact this is good news for Germany actually winning > > > the World Cup now! I associate ballack with always finishing second? > > > If anything it forces Loew to use younger players which will be good > > > for the national team in 2014 and 2018 . > > > I do feel sorry for Ballack, since this was probably his last chance > > > to win anything with Germany and missing out on a World cup weeks > > > before it starts too. I was reading that the game was pretty dirty and > > > that the Ref was letting a lot go? Of course the player who fouled him > > > is the Ghanaian German so that make it even more interesting? > > > > So without Ballack the midfield has Schweisteiger (with Scweinie now > > > playing the Ballack role) Oezil if he is not playing forward, but he > > > will be the attacking mid, then you have two from Trochowski, Marin, > > > Kroos or possibly Podolski playing wide middle and Khedira as the > > > defensive midfielder? I would not bring Frings back in the team, > > > though it may happen? Always have Borowski as well???? > > > > So who becomes the new captain? > > > Klose, except he may not be a starter? > > > Has to be Mertesaker, Lahm or Schweinsteiger. > > > I think Lahm should be the captain. He is Germany's best player, as > > far as I'm concerned. > > I was about to say the same thing. And it is a good idea to not have a > scoring midfielder like Bastian or a striker like Podolski/Klose as > the team captain.- Ocultar texto de la cita - > > - Mostrar texto de la cita - I will say something else on favour of Lahm as captain: he seems to be a very calm person. I don't usually watch the Bundesliga, but I've never seen him getting to upset or out of control. |