Ballack out of WC
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From: Crisstti on 17 May 2010 13:44 On 17 mayo, 12:25, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > I doubt it will come to that? > > Never know, Ballack is captain, and no doubt an influence on the team, some > payback from his teammates is due!!! Though in a fair way if possible!!! > > > Adler out, Rolfes out now Ballack, all would of been starters. > > Shame, shame, and shame, I hate the word injury, it has deprived these three > fine players, and many others a chance to shine on a global scale watched by > absolutely everyone!!! :( > > > I have to say it, I am not a big fan of Ballack's and I dont think he > > will be missed? In fact this is good news for Germany actually winning > > the World Cup now! I associate ballack with always finishing second? > > If anything it forces Loew to use younger players which will be good > > for the national team in 2014 and 2018 . > > Good for the future, but we are here now, worry about the future in > August!!! But that said, a younger player must make the most of a rare > opportunity!!! > > > I do feel sorry for Ballack, since this was probably his last chance > > to win anything with Germany and missing out on a World cup weeks > > before it starts too. I was reading that the game was pretty dirty and > > that the Ref was letting a lot go? Of course the player who fouled him > > is the Ghanaian German so that make it even more interesting? > > The FA cup match was not too dirty, but Boateng and Ballack did get in each > others way a few times, justice with Boateng missing a penalty!!! > > > So without Ballack the midfield has Schweisteiger (with Scweinie now > > playing the Ballack role) Oezil if he is not playing forward, but he > > will be the attacking mid, then you have two from Trochowski, Marin, > > Kroos or possibly Podolski playing wide middle and Khedira as the > > defensive midfielder? I would not bring Frings back in the team, > > though it may happen? Always have Borowski as well???? > > Still a strong team, but us Australians are ready for a fair old battle!!! > > > So who becomes the new captain? > > Klose, except he may not be a starter? > > Has to be Mertesaker, Lahm or Schweinsteiger. > > I would go for Mertesaker, and Schweinsteiger if Per doesn't want it. No way > Lahm!!! > Why??. > > Without wanting to sound too crass about Ballack's predicament, I > > think this may have a positive effect on the team? > > Maybe, but Ballack is a winner, he always plays hard and fair, and I will > miss that powerful head of his which he usually scores with!!! > > > > > It is a young team especially now with the oldest player out, but a > > lot of these players have experience at big games in a World cup or > > European cup or Champions league finals for that matter ( or will have > > soon) so I am not sure the "lack of experience" will be a problem? > > I mean how may Argentine ( Argentina is my pick to win) players have > > played in a World cup final or semi final for that matter?- Ocultar texto de la cita - > > - Mostrar texto de la cita -
From: Crisstti on 17 May 2010 13:48 On 17 mayo, 12:27, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > "Crisstti" <crissttigalda...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0954bc99-4a4b-4588-8d2d-bcb950d71c31(a)h37g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On 17 mayo, 08:32, Joachim Parsch <s...(a)bunuel.franken.de> wrote: > >> Hello, > > >> KP Boateng's blood tackle was not hard enough to break Ballack's > >> leg, but it was still "good" enough to take Ballack out of the WC: > >> <http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17052010/58/world-cup-2010-injured-ball....> > > >> For the benefit of all children reading this, I won't say, > >> what I think of KP Boateng. > > >> Joachim > > > Boateng may very well have done it on pursose with the objective of > > taking him out of the World Cup. They are in the same group. > > I don't understand why FIFA hasn't done something about this kind of > > thing. Boateng (and any player who injures someone else) whould be > > out of the game as long as Ballack is. > > Sounds fair, but what happens if Ballack is forced into retirement?- Ocultar texto de la cita - > > - Mostrar texto de la cita - I suggest a pre-established period. Say, 1 year out... though it should depend on the malice that can be safely assumed. If he wanted to injure him that badly as to force him into retirement (Keane comes ti mind), I don't think it's unfair to forbid that player isn't allowed to play anymore...). And a civil lawsuit, for damages.
From: MH on 17 May 2010 13:45 The Scrutineer wrote: >> I doubt it will come to that? > > Never know, Ballack is captain, and no doubt an influence on the team, > some payback from his teammates is due!!! Though in a fair way if > possible!!! > >> Adler out, Rolfes out now Ballack, all would of been starters. > > Shame, shame, and shame, I hate the word injury, it has deprived these > three fine players, and many others a chance to shine on a global scale > watched by absolutely everyone!!! :( > >> I have to say it, I am not a big fan of Ballack's and I dont think he >> will be missed? In fact this is good news for Germany actually winning >> the World Cup now! I associate ballack with always finishing second? >> If anything it forces Loew to use younger players which will be good >> for the national team in 2014 and 2018 . > > Good for the future, but we are here now, worry about the future in > August!!! But that said, a younger player must make the most of a rare > opportunity!!! > >> I do feel sorry for Ballack, since this was probably his last chance >> to win anything with Germany and missing out on a World cup weeks >> before it starts too. I was reading that the game was pretty dirty and >> that the Ref was letting a lot go? Of course the player who fouled him >> is the Ghanaian German so that make it even more interesting? > > The FA cup match was not too dirty, but Boateng and Ballack did get in > each others way a few times, justice with Boateng missing a penalty!!! > >> So without Ballack the midfield has Schweisteiger (with Scweinie now >> playing the Ballack role) Oezil if he is not playing forward, but he >> will be the attacking mid, then you have two from Trochowski, Marin, >> Kroos or possibly Podolski playing wide middle and Khedira as the >> defensive midfielder? I would not bring Frings back in the team, >> though it may happen? Always have Borowski as well???? > > Still a strong team, but us Australians are ready for a fair old battle!!! > >> So who becomes the new captain? >> Klose, except he may not be a starter? >> Has to be Mertesaker, Lahm or Schweinsteiger. > > I would go for Mertesaker, and Schweinsteiger if Per doesn't want it. No > way Lahm!!! > >> Without wanting to sound too crass about Ballack's predicament, I >> think this may have a positive effect on the team? > > Maybe, but Ballack is a winner, Define winner? he has ended up on the losing side in major finals quite a few times. he always plays hard and fair, disgree there. He is one of the dirtiest players around, mostly in an underhanded sort of way. and I > will miss that powerful head of his which he usually scores with!!! > >> It is a young team especially now with the oldest player out, but a >> lot of these players have experience at big games in a World cup or >> European cup or Champions league finals for that matter ( or will have >> soon) so I am not sure the "lack of experience" will be a problem? >> I mean how may Argentine ( Argentina is my pick to win) players have >> played in a World cup final or semi final for that matter? >
From: Mehdi on 17 May 2010 13:57 > Subject : Ballack out of WC > from : sm(a)bunuel.franken.de > Hello, > > KP Boateng's blood tackle was not hard enough to break Ballack's > leg, but it was still "good" enough to take Ballack out of the WC: > <http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17052010/58/world-cup-2010-injured-ballack-world-cup.html> > > For the benefit of all children reading this, I won't say, > what I think of KP Boateng. > > Joachim I know he's your captain but seriously this is a blessing in disguise. He was a passenger in this Chelsea side. He's years removed from the swashbuckling midfielder who made his name at Leverkusen. Schweinsteiger is more than capable of filling his role and still supporting an Ozil inspired attack. Ballack? Bollocks. -- http://soccer-europe.com Rss feed : http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml
From: JK on 17 May 2010 15:11
Mehdi wrote: > > Subject : Ballack out of WC > > from : sm(a)bunuel.franken.de > > > Hello, > > > > KP Boateng's blood tackle was not hard enough to break Ballack's > > leg, but it was still "good" enough to take Ballack out of the WC: > > > <http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17052010/58/world-cup-2010-injured-ballack-world-cup.html> > > > > > For the benefit of all children reading this, I won't say, > > what I think of KP Boateng. > > > > Joachim > > I know he's your captain but seriously this is a blessing in disguise. > He was a passenger in this Chelsea side. He's years removed from the > swashbuckling midfielder who made his name at Leverkusen. Schweinsteiger > is more than capable of filling his role and still supporting an Ozil > inspired attack. Ballack? Bollocks. > I'm not so sure. In 2006, he largely played as a DM (whether that was his assignment or not, I don't know, but watching the games it was clear that's the role he was playing) and he did an excellent job. I thought he was one of Germany's best players. I don't know that would have been the case this time around, but I think he can still contribute to the national team, but not in the same manner he did in the early 2000s. |