From: The Scrutineer on


"Alkamista" <alkamista(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 23, 5:00 pm, Jesus Petry <jesuspe...(a)pop.com.br> wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 5:52 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:3b7a4f24-7035-4d6b-8081-940ad0efaa45(a)f8g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > On Jun 23, 4:44 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>> > >> Australia 2-1 Serbia FT
>>
>> > >> Well done boys, you've done us proud with a superb victory over a
>> > >> solid
>> > >> European nation.
>>
>> > >> A trademark Cahill header, was followed by a sensational 30 yard
>> > >> goal
>> > >> from
>> > >> Holman, and after Germany scored, they dream was still alive,
>> > >> Pantelic
>> > >> scored a tap in after Schwarzer spilled a Tosic shot for the 2-1
>> > >> result.
>>
>> > >> The unAustralian performace in the match vs Germany cost us dearly
>> > >> to the
>> > >> point we are going home, but with our heads held high with after
>> > >> superb
>> > >> performances in the last two matches, on ya boys!!!
>>
>> > >> Next stop Asian cup 2011!!!
>>
>> > > Props to the Aussies for coming back. An easier group and you might
>> > > be
>> > > moving through.
>>
>> > Well may be so, but on the basis of what could have been against
>> > Germany,
>> > and what we showed, we don't deserve to go through.
>> > Instead my attention will turn to the USA now, thankfully they avoided
>> > a
>> > potentially dangerous German team!!!
>>
>> No shame in finishing a close third in such a difficult group.
>>
>> Tchau!
>> Jesus Petry- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Considering the shambles that is Cote d'Ivoire, this turned out to be
> the real group of death.
>
> So much for Serbia being everyone's dark horse, including mine.
> Picking them made me feel quite smart for a while but now I dont feel
> so smart.

They were never going to get far with an inept lone striker, it took 2 and
three quarter matches for the coach to realise, and were lucky Germany had
an off day.

That said, the 4-0 hammering of Australia was the key result to everything
in the group, it meant that Germany were able to have an off day and
recover, whilst Australia, Serbia and Ghana couldn't afford a slip up
against each other,

Mini table
Australia W1 D1 L0 F3 A2 +1
Ghana W1 D1 L0 F2 A1 +1
Serbia W0 D0 L2 F1 A3 -2


From: JK on
The Scrutineer wrote:
>
>
> "Alkamista" <alkamista(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eb913eb1-a90e-41cb-9229-667200380ff6(a)a3g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 23, 5:00 pm, Jesus Petry <jesuspe...(a)pop.com.br> wrote:
>>> On Jun 23, 5:52 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >news:3b7a4f24-7035-4d6b-8081-940ad0efaa45(a)f8g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> > > On Jun 23, 4:44 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> > >> Australia 2-1 Serbia FT
>>>
>>> > >> Well done boys, you've done us proud with a superb victory over
>>> a > >> solid
>>> > >> European nation.
>>>
>>> > >> A trademark Cahill header, was followed by a sensational 30 yard
>>> > >> goal
>>> > >> from
>>> > >> Holman, and after Germany scored, they dream was still alive, >
>>> >> Pantelic
>>> > >> scored a tap in after Schwarzer spilled a Tosic shot for the 2-1
>>> > >> result.
>>>
>>> > >> The unAustralian performace in the match vs Germany cost us
>>> dearly > >> to the
>>> > >> point we are going home, but with our heads held high with after
>>> > >> superb
>>> > >> performances in the last two matches, on ya boys!!!
>>>
>>> > >> Next stop Asian cup 2011!!!
>>>
>>> > > Props to the Aussies for coming back. An easier group and you
>>> might > > be
>>> > > moving through.
>>>
>>> > Well may be so, but on the basis of what could have been against >
>>> Germany,
>>> > and what we showed, we don't deserve to go through.
>>> > Instead my attention will turn to the USA now, thankfully they
>>> avoided > a
>>> > potentially dangerous German team!!!
>>>
>>> No shame in finishing a close third in such a difficult group.
>>>
>>> Tchau!
>>> Jesus Petry- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Considering the shambles that is Cote d'Ivoire, this turned out to be
>> the real group of death.
>>
>> So much for Serbia being everyone's dark horse, including mine.
>> Picking them made me feel quite smart for a while but now I dont feel
>> so smart.
>
> They were never going to get far with an inept lone striker, it took 2
> and three quarter matches for the coach to realise, and were lucky
> Germany had an off day.
>
> That said, the 4-0 hammering of Australia was the key result to
> everything in the group, it meant that Germany were able to have an off
> day and recover, whilst Australia, Serbia and Ghana couldn't afford a
> slip up against each other,
>

True. While it might be tempting to chalk that scoreline up to Cahill's
sending off, I really think Australia just wasn't ready and sharp that
day. Even with 11 men I think you would have suffered a similar thrashing.

> Mini table
> Australia W1 D1 L0 F3 A2 +1
> Ghana W1 D1 L0 F2 A1 +1
> Serbia W0 D0 L2 F1 A3 -2
>
>

From: Bob on
Alkamista wrote:
> On Jun 23, 5:00 pm, Jesus Petry <jesuspe...(a)pop.com.br> wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 5:52 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:3b7a4f24-7035-4d6b-8081-940ad0efaa45(a)f8g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>> On Jun 23, 4:44 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>> Australia 2-1 Serbia FT
>>
>>>>> Well done boys, you've done us proud with a superb victory over a
>>>>> solid European nation.
>>
>>>>> A trademark Cahill header, was followed by a sensational 30 yard
>>>>> goal from
>>>>> Holman, and after Germany scored, they dream was still alive,
>>>>> Pantelic scored a tap in after Schwarzer spilled a Tosic shot for
>>>>> the 2-1 result.
>>
>>>>> The unAustralian performace in the match vs Germany cost us
>>>>> dearly to the point we are going home, but with our heads held
>>>>> high with after superb performances in the last two matches, on
>>>>> ya boys!!!
>>
>>>>> Next stop Asian cup 2011!!!
>>
>>>> Props to the Aussies for coming back. An easier group and you
>>>> might be moving through.
>>
>>> Well may be so, but on the basis of what could have been against
>>> Germany, and what we showed, we don't deserve to go through.
>>> Instead my attention will turn to the USA now, thankfully they
>>> avoided a potentially dangerous German team!!!
>>
>> No shame in finishing a close third in such a difficult group.
>>
>> Tchau!
>> Jesus Petry- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Considering the shambles that is Cote d'Ivoire, this turned out to be
> the real group of death.
>
> So much for Serbia being everyone's dark horse, including mine.
> Picking them made me feel quite smart for a while but now I dont feel
> so smart.

Especially since they drew and almost lost to a 10 men French side in
Serbia.


From: The Scrutineer on


"JK" <jknapp(a)oacpc.com> wrote in message
news:hvtu33$npk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> The Scrutineer wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alkamista" <alkamista(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eb913eb1-a90e-41cb-9229-667200380ff6(a)a3g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jun 23, 5:00 pm, Jesus Petry <jesuspe...(a)pop.com.br> wrote:
>>>> On Jun 23, 5:52 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> >news:3b7a4f24-7035-4d6b-8081-940ad0efaa45(a)f8g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > > On Jun 23, 4:44 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> Australia 2-1 Serbia FT
>>>>
>>>> > >> Well done boys, you've done us proud with a superb victory over
>>>> a > >> solid
>>>> > >> European nation.
>>>>
>>>> > >> A trademark Cahill header, was followed by a sensational 30 yard
>>>> > >> goal
>>>> > >> from
>>>> > >> Holman, and after Germany scored, they dream was still alive, >
>>>> >> Pantelic
>>>> > >> scored a tap in after Schwarzer spilled a Tosic shot for the 2-1
>>>> > >> result.
>>>>
>>>> > >> The unAustralian performace in the match vs Germany cost us
>>>> dearly > >> to the
>>>> > >> point we are going home, but with our heads held high with after
>>>> > >> superb
>>>> > >> performances in the last two matches, on ya boys!!!
>>>>
>>>> > >> Next stop Asian cup 2011!!!
>>>>
>>>> > > Props to the Aussies for coming back. An easier group and you
>>>> might > > be
>>>> > > moving through.
>>>>
>>>> > Well may be so, but on the basis of what could have been against >
>>>> Germany,
>>>> > and what we showed, we don't deserve to go through.
>>>> > Instead my attention will turn to the USA now, thankfully they
>>>> avoided > a
>>>> > potentially dangerous German team!!!
>>>>
>>>> No shame in finishing a close third in such a difficult group.
>>>>
>>>> Tchau!
>>>> Jesus Petry- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Considering the shambles that is Cote d'Ivoire, this turned out to be
>>> the real group of death.
>>>
>>> So much for Serbia being everyone's dark horse, including mine.
>>> Picking them made me feel quite smart for a while but now I dont feel
>>> so smart.
>>
>> They were never going to get far with an inept lone striker, it took 2
>> and three quarter matches for the coach to realise, and were lucky
>> Germany had an off day.
>>
>> That said, the 4-0 hammering of Australia was the key result to
>> everything in the group, it meant that Germany were able to have an off
>> day and recover, whilst Australia, Serbia and Ghana couldn't afford a
>> slip up against each other,
>>
>
> True. While it might be tempting to chalk that scoreline up to Cahill's
> sending off, I really think Australia just wasn't ready and sharp that
> day. Even with 11 men I think you would have suffered a similar
> thrashing.
>

No doubt, the negative approach was the catalyst, and who knows. even with
11, it might have been worse. But it helps having 11 on the field, it's an
extra body to dribble past.

From: JGN on
On Jun 23, 5:08 pm, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 5:00 pm, Jesus Petry <jesuspe...(a)pop.com.br> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 5:52 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:3b7a4f24-7035-4d6b-8081-940ad0efaa45(a)f8g2000vbl.googlegroups.com....
>
> > > > On Jun 23, 4:44 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > >> Australia 2-1 Serbia FT
>
> > > >> Well done boys, you've done us proud with a superb victory over a solid
> > > >> European nation.
>
> > > >> A trademark Cahill header, was followed by a sensational 30 yard goal
> > > >> from
> > > >> Holman, and after Germany scored, they dream was still alive, Pantelic
> > > >> scored a tap in after Schwarzer spilled a Tosic shot for the 2-1 result.
>
> > > >> The unAustralian performace in the match vs Germany cost us dearly to the
> > > >> point we are going home, but with our heads held high with after superb
> > > >> performances in the last two matches, on ya boys!!!
>
> > > >> Next stop Asian cup 2011!!!
>
> > > > Props to the Aussies for coming back. An easier group and you might be
> > > > moving through.
>
> > > Well may be so, but on the basis of what could have been against Germany,
> > > and what we showed, we don't deserve to go through.
> > > Instead my attention will turn to the USA now, thankfully they avoided a
> > > potentially dangerous German team!!!
>
> >  No shame in finishing a close third in such a difficult group.
>
> >  Tchau!
> >  Jesus Petry- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Considering the shambles that is Cote d'Ivoire, this turned out to be
> the real group of death.

Group H is the real group of death. Very possible to end up with a 3-
way 6 point tie.
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