From: Alkamista on
On Sep 6, 8:36 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> But the point I'm making is that they both have their limitations. CR,
> despite what you claim about him, HAS played in teams with play-makers
> and a style of methodical build-up play and has flopped badly in that
> situation. Look at his NT. His game is built 90% on speed. Make that
> aspect irrelevant and he becomes largely irrelevant.

Which playmakers has Ronaldo played with? And which situations has he
flopped badly in? Do you have examples of both?
From: Abubakr on
On 8 Sep, 02:05, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 6, 8:36 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > But the point I'm making is that they both have their limitations. CR,
> > despite what you claim about him, HAS played in teams with play-makers
> > and a style of methodical build-up play and has flopped badly in that
> > situation. Look at his NT. His game is built 90% on speed. Make that
> > aspect irrelevant and he becomes largely irrelevant.
>
> Which playmakers has Ronaldo played with? And which situations has he
> flopped badly in? Do you have examples of both?

Geez, he's played in 3 international finals tournaments, with players
such as Rui Costa and Deco playmaking, and he's been an irrelevance.
From: Alkamista on
On Sep 7, 3:30 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8 Sep, 02:05, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 6, 8:36 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > But the point I'm making is that they both have their limitations. CR,
> > > despite what you claim about him, HAS played in teams with play-makers
> > > and a style of methodical build-up play and has flopped badly in that
> > > situation. Look at his NT. His game is built 90% on speed. Make that
> > > aspect irrelevant and he becomes largely irrelevant.
>
> > Which playmakers has Ronaldo played with? And which situations has he
> > flopped badly in? Do you have examples of both?
>
> Geez, he's played in 3 international finals tournaments, with players
> such as Rui Costa and Deco playmaking, and he's been an irrelevance.

He barely played with Rui Costa. And yes, I forgot he played with
Deco, but they went to one Euro final and a WC semi-final with that
team. Ronaldo may not have set the world alight but he was a key
member of that team, he wasn't an "irrelevance" and he sure as hell
didn't "flop badly".
From: Abubakr on
On 8 Sep, 07:04, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 7, 3:30 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 8 Sep, 02:05, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 6, 8:36 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > But the point I'm making is that they both have their limitations. CR,
> > > > despite what you claim about him, HAS played in teams with play-makers
> > > > and a style of methodical build-up play and has flopped badly in that
> > > > situation. Look at his NT. His game is built 90% on speed. Make that
> > > > aspect irrelevant and he becomes largely irrelevant.
>
> > > Which playmakers has Ronaldo played with? And which situations has he
> > > flopped badly in? Do you have examples of both?
>
> > Geez, he's played in 3 international finals tournaments, with players
> > such as Rui Costa and Deco playmaking, and he's been an irrelevance.
>
> He barely played with Rui Costa. And yes, I forgot he played with
> Deco, but they went to one Euro final and a WC semi-final with that
> team. Ronaldo may not have set the world alight but he was a key
> member of that team, he wasn't an "irrelevance" and he sure as hell
> didn't "flop badly".

Neither did Messi, then!