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From: Mark V. on 4 Jul 2010 14:33 On Jul 4, 11:32 am, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > Sven Mischkies wrote: > > Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Compared to who? They regularly produce top quality players. And with > >> two world cups, I think they deserve to be there with the Germany, > >> Italy, Brazil group. > > > Argentina just like England averages QFs at WCs, not SFs like Germany > > or Brasil. > > > SF appearances (or eq.): > > 10 Brasil/Germany > > 8 Italy > > 4 Argentina > > 2 England > > SF appearances post WW2 including 2010: > > 11 Germany > 9 Brazil > 6 Italy > 5 France > 3 Argentina > 3 Sweden > 3 ND For consistency's sake, I made an ever-so-slight O/C modification to your list 11 Germany 9 Brazil 6 Italy 5 France 3 Argentina 3 Sweden 3 Netherlands
From: JGN on 4 Jul 2010 15:34 On Jul 4, 2:02 pm, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 4, 1:34 pm, hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies) wrote: > > > Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > It's unimaginable for Argentina or Italy to miss a World Cup. > > > Nah, it happened for Italy before. Argentina can't miss a WC as the > > league like qualification gives a lot of time to make up for blunders. > > It helps you only need to finish top half to qualify. Argentina was 1 match away from not qualifying for this WC.
From: MH on 4 Jul 2010 17:52 Mark V. wrote: > On Jul 4, 11:32 am, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: >> Sven Mischkies wrote: >>> Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Compared to who? They regularly produce top quality players. And with >>>> two world cups, I think they deserve to be there with the Germany, >>>> Italy, Brazil group. >>> Argentina just like England averages QFs at WCs, not SFs like Germany >>> or Brasil. >>> SF appearances (or eq.): >>> 10 Brasil/Germany >>> 8 Italy >>> 4 Argentina >>> 2 England >> SF appearances post WW2 including 2010: >> >> 11 Germany >> 9 Brazil >> 6 Italy >> 5 France >> 3 Argentina >> 3 Sweden >> 3 ND > > For consistency's sake, I made an ever-so-slight O/C modification to > your list > > 11 Germany > 9 Brazil > 6 Italy > 5 France Uruguay 4 -- pay attention, lads ! 1950, 1954, 1970 and 2010. > 3 Argentina > 3 Sweden > 3 Netherlands > > >
From: Chagney Hunt on 4 Jul 2010 18:32 On Jul 4, 3:34 pm, JGN <jagon...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 4, 2:02 pm, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 4, 1:34 pm, hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies) wrote: > > > > Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > It's unimaginable for Argentina or Italy to miss a World Cup. > > > > Nah, it happened for Italy before. Argentina can't miss a WC as the > > > league like qualification gives a lot of time to make up for blunders.. > > > It helps you only need to finish top half to qualify. > > Argentina was 1 match away from not qualifying for this WC. They allowed someone with zero managerial material to learn on the job and *still* qualified. They probably don't even need a trainer to qualify.
From: KaiserD2 on 4 Jul 2010 22:25
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:31:33 -0400, RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:12:30 +0100, Mehdi <Benny(a)soccer-europe.com> >wrote: > >> > Subject : Argentina 1994-2010 >> > From : anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com >> >>> 1994 OF - Lost to Romania (UEFA) >>> 1998 QF - Lost to Netherlands (UEFA) >>> 2002 Group - After Sweden (UEFA), England (UEFA) >>> 2006 QF - Lost to Germany (UEFA) >>> 2010 QF - Lost to Germany (UEFA) >>> >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/b5a4b68327a3046d/c8a6e65d8cbb750c?hl=en&q=Spain+%3D+Not+the+best&lnk=ol& >> >>Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer >>From: Benny <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> >>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:20:27 +0100 >> >>FFS. Not this bullshit about Argentina again. They're the best team in >>the World like New Zealand are the best Rugby team in the world - until >>the World Cup when they shoot their load early and go home. > >Benny, your opinion doesn't count for much and it changes like the >wind. For instance you wrote this about Brasil.... > >>Overwhelmed? Rises the tempo? The CIV players started to kick the >>Brazilians after going 3-0 down. That's not raising the tempo and this >>Brazil team have the best defence in the World and a fearsome counter >>attack. It will take a very bad off day or a Paolo Rossi level >>performance to beat this side. > >Face it, you don't really understand this game and are far from being >any kind of expert. > >RED DEVIL I was flying home today on Jet Blue, which appears to have the best inflight video of any US airline, and caught a good deal of the Argentina-Germany game. Argentina totally panicked. Several times they took shots outside the box when there was a GAPING hole to push the ball through. And while no one seems to have mentioned it, the opening goal involved a DREADFUL piece of goalkeeping--he was frozen to the spot and the header, which wasn't hit all that hard, hit him on the shin and bounced in. Germany deserved it but really Argentina were incredibly disappointing. Iguain didn't have a clue either. DK |