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From: FF on 13 Apr 2010 17:06 Bruce D. Scott wrote: > FF (FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com) wrote: > > : Lame. There's mistakes and there's mistakes. You can't compere > : Schweini with Rafael in this respect. If you want to play what-if, > : play it by the rules. :-) > [...] > > My rules are as good as yours :-) Not really. Mistakes like that of Schweini happen all the time and I bet there were more of them in this match too, while the one of Rafael obviously just shouldn't be made at such a level. > BTW it was a totally deserved second yellow. Stupid play to do an > intentional foul like that on the midfield line just because he's too > lazy to run back. Nobody's denying that. Not even SAF did, ugly as he was.
From: REDDEVIL6 on 13 Apr 2010 22:26 On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:28:05 -0700 (PDT), FF <FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: >Bruce D. Scott wrote: >> FF (FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com) wrote: >> : Sven Mischkies wrote: >> : > Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote: >> : > >> : > > "They got him [Rafael] sent off, surrounding the referee... typical Germans." >> : > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/10/rafael-sending-off-schrodingers-cat >> : > >> : > ;) >> >> : Typical rubbish. Of course, Rafael being a hothead might very well >> : have been sent off at some point, that's true (the only true bit). But >> : the point is, if he had managed to keep his cool and stay in the game >> : till near the end, from what we saw most likely United would have >> : qualified. Nothing's for sure but it's fairly likely, that's how it >> : goes in the alternate reality. You know, like my site, that's what >> : prompted me to write this. (I know it's meant half as a joke but he's >> : also serious, he thinks he's telling it as it is.) >> >> >> Well, if you want to play what-if? then I suggest Bastian Schweinsteiger >> at the beginning of the second half. Suppose he doesn't hesitate, he >> remembers his Euro2008 form and takes the shot as soon as he gets open. >> And scores. Then we don't need Rafael's sending off to "wonderfully >> lose" the match and win the tie. >> >> Of course, in the real world, Schweini hesitated, then tried to push the >> ball past one more defender, and lost it. Oh well. > >Lame. There's mistakes and there's mistakes. You can't compere >Schweini with Rafael in this respect. If you want to play what-if, >play it by the rules. :-) >That said, I don't want to play what-if. IMO, because of the the >thinness of the United squad (which has other deeper causes), >Fergusson had to use players prone to many mistakes that don't belong >to this level of the UCL. So, with a bit of bad luck, they lost. I was >just countering the article above. "other deeper causes" meaning injuries? If so, you are correct!
From: FF on 13 Apr 2010 22:56 REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:28:05 -0700 (PDT), FF > <FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > > >Bruce D. Scott wrote: > >> FF (FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com) wrote: > >> : Sven Mischkies wrote: > >> : > Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote: > >> : > > >> : > > "They got him [Rafael] sent off, surrounding the referee... typical Germans." > >> : > > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/10/rafael-sending-off-schrodingers-cat > >> : > > >> : > ;) > >> > >> : Typical rubbish. Of course, Rafael being a hothead might very well > >> : have been sent off at some point, that's true (the only true bit). But > >> : the point is, if he had managed to keep his cool and stay in the game > >> : till near the end, from what we saw most likely United would have > >> : qualified. Nothing's for sure but it's fairly likely, that's how it > >> : goes in the alternate reality. You know, like my site, that's what > >> : prompted me to write this. (I know it's meant half as a joke but he's > >> : also serious, he thinks he's telling it as it is.) > >> > >> > >> Well, if you want to play what-if? then I suggest Bastian Schweinsteiger > >> at the beginning of the second half. Suppose he doesn't hesitate, he > >> remembers his Euro2008 form and takes the shot as soon as he gets open. > >> And scores. Then we don't need Rafael's sending off to "wonderfully > >> lose" the match and win the tie. > >> > >> Of course, in the real world, Schweini hesitated, then tried to push the > >> ball past one more defender, and lost it. Oh well. > > > >Lame. There's mistakes and there's mistakes. You can't compere > >Schweini with Rafael in this respect. If you want to play what-if, > >play it by the rules. :-) > >That said, I don't want to play what-if. IMO, because of the the > >thinness of the United squad (which has other deeper causes), > >Fergusson had to use players prone to many mistakes that don't belong > >to this level of the UCL. So, with a bit of bad luck, they lost. I was > >just countering the article above. > > "other deeper causes" meaning injuries? > > If so, you are correct! While we're at it, what was their complete injuries list at the time of the game ?
From: MH on 14 Apr 2010 17:29 FF wrote: > REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:28:05 -0700 (PDT), FF >> <FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: >> >>> Bruce D. Scott wrote: >>>> FF (FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com) wrote: >>>> : Sven Mischkies wrote: >>>> : > Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote: >>>> : > >>>> : > > "They got him [Rafael] sent off, surrounding the referee... typical Germans." >>>> : > >>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/10/rafael-sending-off-schrodingers-cat >>>> : > >>>> : > ;) >>>> >>>> : Typical rubbish. Of course, Rafael being a hothead might very well >>>> : have been sent off at some point, that's true (the only true bit). But >>>> : the point is, if he had managed to keep his cool and stay in the game >>>> : till near the end, from what we saw most likely United would have >>>> : qualified. Nothing's for sure but it's fairly likely, that's how it >>>> : goes in the alternate reality. You know, like my site, that's what >>>> : prompted me to write this. (I know it's meant half as a joke but he's >>>> : also serious, he thinks he's telling it as it is.) >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, if you want to play what-if? then I suggest Bastian Schweinsteiger >>>> at the beginning of the second half. Suppose he doesn't hesitate, he >>>> remembers his Euro2008 form and takes the shot as soon as he gets open. >>>> And scores. Then we don't need Rafael's sending off to "wonderfully >>>> lose" the match and win the tie. >>>> >>>> Of course, in the real world, Schweini hesitated, then tried to push the >>>> ball past one more defender, and lost it. Oh well. >>> Lame. There's mistakes and there's mistakes. You can't compere >>> Schweini with Rafael in this respect. If you want to play what-if, >>> play it by the rules. :-) >>> That said, I don't want to play what-if. IMO, because of the the >>> thinness of the United squad (which has other deeper causes), >>> Fergusson had to use players prone to many mistakes that don't belong >>> to this level of the UCL. So, with a bit of bad luck, they lost. I was >>> just countering the article above. >> "other deeper causes" meaning injuries? >> >> If so, you are correct! > > While we're at it, what was their complete injuries list at the time > of the game ? Hargreaves Brown Anderson Rooney Those are the main ones I can think of off hand. About the expected number for this time of year. Eg. Arsenal has been missing Van Persie, Fabregas, Gallas and a few others for a while - Vermaelen went down today. Chelsea seem to have been quite fortunate with injuries this year - Ashley Cole and Essien are the only major long term casualties I can think of.
From: FF on 14 Apr 2010 18:58
MH wrote: > FF wrote: > > REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:28:05 -0700 (PDT), FF > >> <FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > >> > >>> That said, I don't want to play what-if. IMO, because of the the > >>> thinness of the United squad (which has other deeper causes), > >>> Fergusson had to use players prone to many mistakes that don't belong > >>> to this level of the UCL. So, with a bit of bad luck, they lost. I was > >>> just countering the article above. > >> "other deeper causes" meaning injuries? > >> > >> If so, you are correct! > > > > While we're at it, what was their complete injuries list at the time > > of the game ? > > Hargreaves > Brown > Anderson > Rooney > > Those are the main ones I can think of off hand. About the expected > number for this time of year. My thoughts exactly. Not that impressive. It certainly looks like they're way too dependent on the form of one man, Rooney, since Ronaldo's departure. |