From: FF on
Sven Mischkies wrote:
> Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote:
>
> > "They got him [Rafael] sent off, surrounding the referee... typical Germans."
>
> <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/10/rafael-sending-off-
> schrodingers-cat>
>
> ;)

Typical rubbish. Of course, Rafael being a hothead might very well
have been sent off at some point, that's true (the only true bit). But
the point is, if he had managed to keep his cool and stay in the game
till near the end, from what we saw most likely United would have
qualified. Nothing's for sure but it's fairly likely, that's how it
goes in the alternate reality. You know, like my site, that's what
prompted me to write this. (I know it's meant half as a joke but he's
also serious, he thinks he's telling it as it is.)
From: +mrcakey on
"FF" <FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote in message
news:0e8d3b18-d7bf-4b94-a491-322c02459409(a)5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> Sven Mischkies wrote:
>> Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "They got him [Rafael] sent off, surrounding the referee... typical
>> > Germans."
>>
>> <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/10/rafael-sending-off-
>> schrodingers-cat>
>>
>> ;)
>
> Typical rubbish. Of course, Rafael being a hothead might very well
> have been sent off at some point, that's true (the only true bit). But
> the point is, if he had managed to keep his cool and stay in the game
> till near the end, from what we saw most likely United would have
> qualified. Nothing's for sure but it's fairly likely, that's how it
> goes in the alternate reality. You know, like my site, that's what
> prompted me to write this. (I know it's meant half as a joke but he's
> also serious, he thinks he's telling it as it is.)

If my auntie had a penis she'd be my uncle.

--
+mrcakey


From: Bruce D. Scott on
FF (FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com) wrote:
: Sven Mischkies wrote:
: > Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote:
: >
: > > "They got him [Rafael] sent off, surrounding the referee... typical Germans."
: >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/10/rafael-sending-off-schrodingers-cat
: >
: > ;)

: Typical rubbish. Of course, Rafael being a hothead might very well
: have been sent off at some point, that's true (the only true bit). But
: the point is, if he had managed to keep his cool and stay in the game
: till near the end, from what we saw most likely United would have
: qualified. Nothing's for sure but it's fairly likely, that's how it
: goes in the alternate reality. You know, like my site, that's what
: prompted me to write this. (I know it's meant half as a joke but he's
: also serious, he thinks he's telling it as it is.)


Well, if you want to play what-if? then I suggest Bastian Schweinsteiger
at the beginning of the second half. Suppose he doesn't hesitate, he
remembers his Euro2008 form and takes the shot as soon as he gets open.
And scores. Then we don't need Rafael's sending off to "wonderfully
lose" the match and win the tie.

Of course, in the real world, Schweini hesitated, then tried to push the
ball past one more defender, and lost it. Oh well.



--
ciao,
Bruce

drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: FF on
Bruce D. Scott wrote:
> FF (FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com) wrote:
> : Sven Mischkies wrote:
> : > Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote:
> : >
> : > > "They got him [Rafael] sent off, surrounding the referee... typical Germans."
> : >
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/10/rafael-sending-off-schrodingers-cat
> : >
> : > ;)
>
> : Typical rubbish. Of course, Rafael being a hothead might very well
> : have been sent off at some point, that's true (the only true bit). But
> : the point is, if he had managed to keep his cool and stay in the game
> : till near the end, from what we saw most likely United would have
> : qualified. Nothing's for sure but it's fairly likely, that's how it
> : goes in the alternate reality. You know, like my site, that's what
> : prompted me to write this. (I know it's meant half as a joke but he's
> : also serious, he thinks he's telling it as it is.)
>
>
> Well, if you want to play what-if? then I suggest Bastian Schweinsteiger
> at the beginning of the second half. Suppose he doesn't hesitate, he
> remembers his Euro2008 form and takes the shot as soon as he gets open.
> And scores. Then we don't need Rafael's sending off to "wonderfully
> lose" the match and win the tie.
>
> Of course, in the real world, Schweini hesitated, then tried to push the
> ball past one more defender, and lost it. Oh well.

Lame. There's mistakes and there's mistakes. You can't compere
Schweini with Rafael in this respect. If you want to play what-if,
play it by the rules. :-)
That said, I don't want to play what-if. IMO, because of the the
thinness of the United squad (which has other deeper causes),
Fergusson had to use players prone to many mistakes that don't belong
to this level of the UCL. So, with a bit of bad luck, they lost. I was
just countering the article above.
From: Bruce D. Scott on
FF (FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com) wrote:

: Lame. There's mistakes and there's mistakes. You can't compere
: Schweini with Rafael in this respect. If you want to play what-if,
: play it by the rules. :-)
[...]

My rules are as good as yours :-)

BTW it was a totally deserved second yellow. Stupid play to do an
intentional foul like that on the midfield line just because he's too
lazy to run back.

--
ciao,
Bruce

drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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