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From: KaiserD2 on 19 Jun 2010 21:41
Since 1990 at least it's been clear that Africans have a
particular style and that it's very attractive. They are extremely
patient and very careful with the ball. Their defenders, in mhy
opinion, are the best in the world at making their first touch count,
that is, finding an open teammate instead of just whacking it up the
field. They are very good ball winners. But there's one thing that
they tend to be very bad at, and it seems to do them in every time in
the WC.

Scoring.

Yes, Drogba is a great scorer, and everyone seems to think Eto
is, although I've never really seen him do all that much. But it
seems to me that speed (of foot) is usually the key to creating
chances nowadays, and that tends to be a weakness of the African
sides. Partly because their players tend to be so large.

Comments?

DK
From: Jim Goloboy on 19 Jun 2010 21:51
I think this article was pretty accurate:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/writers/jonathan_wilson/05/29/africa.playmakers/index.html?eref=writers

While there are lots of good individual African players, most of them
fall into just a few types, and there are serious holes when putting
together a team.

On Jun 19, 9:41 pm, Kaise...(a)gmail.com wrote:
>      Since 1990 at least it's been clear that Africans have a
> particular style and that it's very attractive.  They are extremely
> patient and very careful with the ball.  Their defenders, in mhy
> opinion, are the best in the world at making their first touch count,
> that is, finding an open teammate instead of just whacking it up the
> field.  They are very good ball winners.  But there's one thing that
> they tend to be very bad at, and it seems to do them in every time in
> the WC.
>
>      Scoring.
>
>      Yes, Drogba is a great scorer, and everyone seems to think Eto
> is, although I've never really seen him do all that much.  But it
> seems to me that speed (of foot) is usually the key to creating
> chances nowadays, and that tends to be a weakness of the African
> sides.  Partly because their players tend to be so large.  
>
>      Comments?
>
> DK

From: Chagney Hunt on 19 Jun 2010 23:19
On Jun 19, 9:41 pm, Kaise...(a)gmail.com wrote:
>      Since 1990 at least it's been clear that Africans have a
> particular style and that it's very attractive.  They are extremely
> patient and very careful with the ball.  Their defenders, in mhy
> opinion, are the best in the world at making their first touch count,
> that is, finding an open teammate instead of just whacking it up the
> field.  They are very good ball winners.  But there's one thing that
> they tend to be very bad at, and it seems to do them in every time in
> the WC.
>
>      Scoring.
>
>      Yes, Drogba is a great scorer, and everyone seems to think Eto
> is, although I've never really seen him do all that much.  But it
> seems to me that speed (of foot) is usually the key to creating
> chances nowadays, and that tends to be a weakness of the African
> sides.  Partly because their players tend to be so large.  
>
>      Comments?
>
> DK

You got everything wrong. Try watching more football instead of
jumping to conclusions based on what you see every four years. The
majority of football happens outside of the World Cup, you know. And
the highest quality of football is played in later rounds of Champions
League, not this show case.
From: Abubakr on 19 Jun 2010 23:41
On Jun 20, 1:19 pm, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 9:41 pm, Kaise...(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >      Since 1990 at least it's been clear that Africans have a
> > particular style and that it's very attractive.  They are extremely
> > patient and very careful with the ball.  Their defenders, in mhy
> > opinion, are the best in the world at making their first touch count,
> > that is, finding an open teammate instead of just whacking it up the
> > field.  They are very good ball winners.  But there's one thing that
> > they tend to be very bad at, and it seems to do them in every time in
> > the WC.
>
> >      Scoring.
>
> >      Yes, Drogba is a great scorer, and everyone seems to think Eto
> > is, although I've never really seen him do all that much.  But it
> > seems to me that speed (of foot) is usually the key to creating
> > chances nowadays, and that tends to be a weakness of the African
> > sides.  Partly because their players tend to be so large.  
>
> >      Comments?

>and
> the highest quality of football is played in later rounds of Champions
> League, not this show case.

On average perhaps, but not necessarily or always. The World Cup still
produces football to rival what's on offer in the CL.
From: Chagney Hunt on 20 Jun 2010 01:02
On Jun 19, 11:41 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:19 pm, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 19, 9:41 pm, Kaise...(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >      Since 1990 at least it's been clear that Africans have a
> > > particular style and that it's very attractive.  They are extremely
> > > patient and very careful with the ball.  Their defenders, in mhy
> > > opinion, are the best in the world at making their first touch count,
> > > that is, finding an open teammate instead of just whacking it up the
> > > field.  They are very good ball winners.  But there's one thing that
> > > they tend to be very bad at, and it seems to do them in every time in
> > > the WC.
>
> > >      Scoring.
>
> > >      Yes, Drogba is a great scorer, and everyone seems to think Eto
> > > is, although I've never really seen him do all that much.  But it
> > > seems to me that speed (of foot) is usually the key to creating
> > > chances nowadays, and that tends to be a weakness of the African
> > > sides.  Partly because their players tend to be so large.  
>
> > >      Comments?
> >and
> > the highest quality of football is played in later rounds of Champions
> > League, not this show case.
>
> On average perhaps, but not necessarily or always. The World Cup still
> produces football to rival what's on offer in the CL.

In entertainment value -- yes. Division 4 can produce games as
entertaining as the best World Cup game. In actual team strength? I
don't think so. You may have to go back to the 70s and early 80s ('82
Italy was basically Juventus) to find a national team better than any
club side, when moving abroad was harder and much less common. Since
the 90s, not so much. Germany 1990 was perhaps the last national team
that was equal to the best club side at the time.

'94 Brazil? I'll take '94 Barcelona and Milan over that Brazil easily.
'98 France? Not bad, but were they better than Juventus or Real
Madrid? Hell, were they even better than Monaco?
'02 Brazil? Had lots of stars -- Galacticos 1.0 could match them star
for star, and they got punted by Juventus 8-9 months later. The other
finalist -- Germany wouldn't probably even get into the quarter final
of Champions League of that year :-)
'06 Italy? Over Laporta 1.0 or the last great Arsenal side? Doubtful.
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