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From: Insane Ranter on 6 May 2010 05:20
On May 6, 5:13 am, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 12:29 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 6 May, 16:56, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > And the other thing is that we (i.e. the smart people of
> > Nonamericandom) that when  we say "America"  we are abbreviating the
> > full title of United States of America; the same level of geographical
> > knowledge can't be said of Yanks vis a vis the outside world.
>
> Are you sure you want to make blanket statements like this? You
> usually come across as being a bit more thoughtful.

This quote sums up the feeling of the US and soccer: "Americans love a
winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser."
If the US national team didn't tank it so often maybe Americans would
care more.
From: Mark V. on 6 May 2010 05:24
On May 6, 2:20 am, Insane Ranter <log...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 5:13 am, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 6, 12:29 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 6 May, 16:56, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > And the other thing is that we (i.e. the smart people of
> > > Nonamericandom) that when  we say "America"  we are abbreviating the
> > > full title of United States of America; the same level of geographical
> > > knowledge can't be said of Yanks vis a vis the outside world.
>
> > Are you sure you want to make blanket statements like this? You
> > usually come across as being a bit more thoughtful.
>
> This quote sums up the feeling of the US and soccer: "Americans love a
> winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser."
> If the US national team didn't tank it so often maybe Americans would
> care more.

There's a huge element of truth to this. You have to get more of them
to pay attention in the first place, though.
From: Abubakr on 6 May 2010 07:08
On 6 May, 19:13, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 12:29 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 6 May, 16:56, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > And the other thing is that we (i.e. the smart people of
> > Nonamericandom) that when  we say "America"  we are abbreviating the
> > full title of United States of America; the same level of geographical
> > knowledge can't be said of Yanks vis a vis the outside world.
>
> Are you sure you want to make blanket statements like this? You
> usually come across as being a bit more thoughtful.

I was joking.
From: Bob on 6 May 2010 08:11
Mark V. wrote:
> On May 5, 6:23 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>> Mark V. wrote:
>>> I was lecturing a group of about 20 community college students on
>>> European immigration issues, and focusing on North African
>>> communities in France and elsewhere. Not ONE of them responded in
>>> the affirmative when I asked if they were familiar with "the
>>> headbut" from 2006. And this in the media market of the MLS team
>>> with the highest attendances.
>>
>> Are the demographics of that market similar to that of community
>> college students and is it typical of the average US market?
>> Somehow, I'd tend to think that community college students in SoCal
>> are more likely to know about football trivia.
>
> Make that "headbutt"! Nobody called me on my typo.
>
> I don't know what the typical community college demographic is because
> it really varies from college to college, and even from class to
> class. It is in Everett WA (you may be familiar, Bob), a working
> class/ military town north of Seattle. I've seen a couple of these
> students wearing Sounders jerseys, one wearing an Italia shirt, and
> know that a couple of them play soccer in local leagues.

I wonder if the average soccer fan is more middle class than the average
community college student in the PNW.


From: Dwight Beers on 6 May 2010 11:08
On 05/06/2010 08:03 AM, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On May 6, 10:52 am, Dwight Beers<hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 05/06/2010 12:01 AM, Mark V. wrote:
>>
>>> On May 5, 6:23 pm, "Bob"<B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>>>> Mark V. wrote:
>>>>> I was lecturing a group of about 20 community college students on
>>>>> European immigration issues, and focusing on North African communities
>>>>> in France and elsewhere. Not ONE of them responded in the affirmative
>>>>> when I asked if they were familiar with "the headbut" from 2006. And
>>>>> this in the media market of the MLS team with the highest attendances.
>> <snip>

>
> I think i am more surprised that there is anyone under 65 in Surprise
> Arizona?
>
You could perhaps use a bit of math tutoring? :-)

<snip>

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