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From: Dwight Beers on 24 Jun 2010 17:21
On 06/24/2010 02:04 PM, anders t wrote:
> I have this feeling that the Europeans in general left their hearts back in
> Europe this WC. Perhaps the European players have become lazy and blas�?
> This in combination with that the standards around the world is higher now
> overall has caught the Europeans with their pants down. I expect the
> Europeans to rethink, regroup and come back stronger for 2014.
>
I think that the European clubs, except possibly Holland and Germany,
have pretty much given up on the idea of developing players for the
national team and adopted the attitude that foreign players (even
Americans) are probably better investments. And, the federations, don't
seem interested in taking up the slack.

My suggestion, which if I remember correctly, I made on this forum a few
years back is that the European federations should adopt what I humbly
suggest be called "the Dwight rules":

1. 13 players on each 25 man squad should be eligible to play for the
national team in the nation they are playing in.

2. 6 (or 7) players on each 25 man squad should be eligible to play for
another European nation.

3. The rest should be eligible for national teams from other parts of
the world.




From: JGN on 24 Jun 2010 17:23
On Jun 24, 5:04 pm, anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have this feeling that the Europeans in general left their hearts back in
> Europe this WC. Perhaps the European players have become lazy and blasé?
> This in combination with that the standards around the world is higher now
> overall has caught the Europeans with their pants down. I expect the
> Europeans to rethink, regroup and come back stronger for 2014.

Don't know about the rest, but Italy needs to renew the squad. Too
many guys are over the hill and no longer up to the task (*cough*
cannavaro *cough*). And the complete lack of someone capable of
organizing the deadly turnovers that where their bread and butter in
2006 in the absence of Pirlo (who is also getting past his prime
anyway) was ridiculous. Instead of the typical "defense, defense,
defense, recovery, two passes and we're going 3 on 2 on the attack"
it's "defend, defend, oopsie, defend, recovery, now what? Uh, I guess
long ball to that lone guy".
From: gsn on 24 Jun 2010 17:25
On Jun 24, 5:04 pm, anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have this feeling that the Europeans in general left their hearts back in
> Europe this WC. Perhaps the European players have become lazy and blasé?
> This in combination with that the standards around the world is higher now
> overall has caught the Europeans with their pants down. I expect the
> Europeans to rethink, regroup and come back stronger for 2014.
>
> --
> MANCHESTER UNITED FC
> CHAMPIONS LATEST
> ENGLAND 2009 - UEFA 2008 - WORLD 2009


Perhaps because they are playing in the southern hemisphere?! A
combination of latitude, longitude and altitude, climate might have
affected them.
The other southern hemisphere countries ( South America, Australia, NZ
and even Bafana Bafana) did quite well.

gsn
From: Mehdi on 24 Jun 2010 17:53
> Subject : A Thought
> FroM : anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com

> I have this feeling that the Europeans in general left their hearts
back in
> Europe this WC. Perhaps the European players have become lazy and blas�?
> This in combination with that the standards around the world is
higher now
> overall has caught the Europeans with their pants down. I expect the
> Europeans to rethink, regroup and come back stronger for 2014.

That's the type of question I would expect of a newb. You've been here
long enough and read enough comments criticising Lippi and Domenech
before the World Cup to know better. Who are the other Euros that didn't
really perform? The Danes? They're not very good. The Serbs? Choked.


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From: Jellore on 24 Jun 2010 17:58
On Jun 25, 7:04 am, anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have this feeling that the Europeans in general left their hearts back in
> Europe this WC. Perhaps the European players have become lazy and blasé?
> This in combination with that the standards around the world is higher now
> overall has caught the Europeans with their pants down. I expect the
> Europeans to rethink, regroup and come back stronger for 2014.
>
> --
>          MANCHESTER UNITED FC
>            CHAMPIONS LATEST
>  ENGLAND 2009 - UEFA 2008 - WORLD 2009

I assume you are talking about the Italians and the French?
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