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From: SHUSSBAR on 28 Jun 2010 18:10
On Jun 24, 4:04 pm, anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have this feeling that the Europeans in general left their hearts back in
> Europe this WC. Perhaps the European players have become lazy and blasé?
> This in combination with that the standards around the world is higher now
> overall has caught the Europeans with their pants down. I expect the
> Europeans to rethink, regroup and come back stronger for 2014.
>
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I think that I agree with that completely even if they will never
admit such a thing. Add that some problems specific in each euro
countries (coach, lack of players at x positions, etc.) and voilà
From: MH on 30 Jun 2010 19:28
Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On 2010-06-25, MH <MHnospam(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>> ken.overton(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>> I know but I'm asking how much worse, and in particular, how much
>>> worse than other WC's **that were not in Europe**? For example, have
>>> a look at UEFA results in the last WC not in Europe:
>>>
>>> 4th place: 3
>> Slovenia, France, Poland in 2002
>>
>>> 3rd place: 2
>> Russia, Portugal, Croatia makes 3
>>
>>> 2nd place: 4
>> Ireland, England, Belgium, Turkey, Italy -- makes 5
>>
>>> 1st place: 4
>> Germany, Denmark, Spain, Sweden
>>
>> 9/15 reached second round. 4 in QF, 2 in SF.
>
> After that cup UEFA the 15 was reduced to 14 *including* the hosts for 2006.
>
> In 2006 it was 10/14 in the second round. 6 in QF, 4 in SF.
>
> FIFA rewarded that by reducing UEFA by one spot again.

I know, it does not make any sense, no matter how you slice the
allocation of host/defending champion spots, so far as I can tell.

15 in France (including hosts)
14.5 for 2002 (Ireland had to play off vs. Iran), including champs
14 for 2006 (Including hosts, champs no longer automatic qualifiers0
13 for 2010

This is what makes me worried; if FIFA's general approach has been to
raid UEFA for spots when UEFA were doing well,, what will they do now ?
From: Insane Ranter on 1 Jul 2010 01:26
On Jun 30, 7:28 pm, MH <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> > On 2010-06-25, MH <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> >> ken.over...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I know but I'm asking how much worse, and in particular, how much
> >>> worse than other WC's **that were not in Europe**?  For example, have
> >>> a look at UEFA results in the last WC not in Europe:
>
> >>> 4th place: 3
> >> Slovenia, France, Poland in 2002
>
> >>> 3rd place: 2
> >> Russia, Portugal, Croatia makes 3
>
> >>> 2nd place: 4
> >> Ireland, England, Belgium, Turkey, Italy -- makes 5
>
> >>> 1st place: 4
> >> Germany, Denmark, Spain, Sweden
>
> >> 9/15 reached second round.  4 in QF, 2 in SF.
>
> > After that cup UEFA the 15 was reduced to 14 *including* the hosts for 2006.
>
> > In 2006 it was 10/14 in the second round. 6 in QF, 4 in SF.
>
> > FIFA rewarded that by reducing UEFA by one spot again.
>
> I know, it does not make any sense, no matter how you slice the
> allocation of host/defending champion spots, so far as I can tell.
>
> 15 in France (including hosts)
> 14.5 for 2002 (Ireland had to play off vs. Iran), including champs
> 14  for 2006 (Including hosts, champs no longer automatic qualifiers0
> 13 for 2010
>
> This is what makes me worried; if FIFA's general approach has been to
> raid UEFA for spots when UEFA were doing well,, what will they do now ?

If we take them from UEFA who do we give them to S. America? Do we
really want to see Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia, or Peru?
From: Mehdi on 1 Jul 2010 15:11
> Subject : A Thought
> From : logwyn(a)gmail.com

> If we take them from UEFA who do we give them to S. America? Do we
> really want to see Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia, or Peru?

Colombia means a new Shakira video and Shakira in the stands. That's
reason enough IMO. Venezuelan women, judging from the annual Miss World
shows on Italian TV, also smoking hot.

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From: nandalf on 1 Jul 2010 18:41
On 1 jul, 02:26, Insane Ranter <log...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 7:28 pm, MH <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>
>

>
> If we take them from UEFA who do we give them to S. America? Do we
> really want to see  Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia, or Peru?

To be fair Equador is not so bad,better to watch than
Switzerland,Australia,New zeland,Slovenia and others.
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