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From: Sven Mischkies on 4 Mar 2010 15:29 anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote: > Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer: > > >You > > I was not. I merely read. How is that difficult to understand? Well, then show me the source of that nonsense. > >are accusing one of the most successfull German coaches ever of drug > >abuse, and refer to his debatable history. > > > >1) What of his history is debatable? > >2) Where is the proof of his drug abuse? > > Look. You don't have to agree with me, Sven. You can't just come in here and accuse people of whatever you think you remember to have read half a decade ago. Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams
From: Sven Mischkies on 4 Mar 2010 15:50 anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote: > Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer: > >anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer: > >> > >> >You > >> > >> I was not. I merely read. How is that difficult to understand? > > > > > >Well, then show me the source of that nonsense. > > > > > >> >are accusing one of the most successfull German coaches ever of drug > >> >abuse, and refer to his debatable history. > >> > > >> >1) What of his history is debatable? > >> >2) Where is the proof of his drug abuse? > >> > >> Look. You don't have to agree with me, Sven. > > > > > >You can't just come in here and accuse people of whatever you think you > >remember to have read half a decade ago. > > Correction, I know I read it. Prove it. Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams
From: Sven Mischkies on 4 Mar 2010 16:57 anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote: > Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer: > > >Prove it. > > What do you want me to prove? That I know I read it? Proof that you did read something about Rehagel's "debatable past". If you did read it, then it must still be somewhere. I never heard anything debatable about his past, apart from a single 0-12 that cost him his job. Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams
From: MH on 4 Mar 2010 17:29 FF wrote: > MH wrote: > >>FF wrote: >> >>>Well, maybe, but those other clubs practically stand no chance of >>>winning trophies anyway, because of clubs from Bayern, Bremen, Hamburg >>>etc. Unless of course a sugardaddy comes their way too. >>> >> >>Bad examples. Hamburg have not won the BL since the 1980s (early 80s), >>in spite of having a larger city to draw on and a nice big stadium with >>good attendance. >> >>Bremen have won a few titles but are actually quite a small club, with >>lower attendances than the likes of Dortmund, Schalke, Stuttgart, K�ln, >>Moenchengladbach etc. > > > Maybe, but they're the only german clubs I know about. :-) Except for > Borussia who won the Champs League in 97. Anyway, my point was that > cities like Hoffenheim don't win titles. > > >>Kaiserslautern (tiny city) have won championships more recently than >>Hamburg, K�ln, Schalke and Hertha Berlin. > > > So I guess they must have had a big sponsor. A sugardaddy. Nope. No sugar daddies, no owners (you can't really own a Bundesliga club). > > >>In Germany it is not just about being a big (or big city) club. The >>same is also true for France - PSG and Marseille, the two teams with the >>biggest attendances, do not dominate proceedings > > > No, but Lyon is a big enough city, as is Bordeaux. As a general rule I > don't think you can deny what I'm saying. There may be exceptions, I > don't know such details, but they are exceptions. And most of them > probably have a sugardaddy behind them anyway. I think you will find that they don't, historically. here is a list of teams from smaller centres, without large attendances, that have won league titles or European trophies - as far as I know none of them had sugar daddies: Derby County Nottingham Forest Ipswich Aberdeen Kaiserslautern Auxerre Lens (though their attendances are big by French standards) Borussia Moenchengladbach (now have a large stadium but didn't then) Strassbourg Nantes St. Etienne (again, they have large support for a smaller city, though) Deportivo La Coruna Real Zaragoza Bruges With the influx of sugar daddies and rich owners, those type of events are being killed. I think this is a bad thing
From: Bruce D. Scott on 5 Mar 2010 06:51
anders t (anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com) wrote: : Quoting Bruce D. Scott in rec.sport.soccer: : >You can feel free with those leaps of logic as long as you admit them. : Why is it so diffucult to understand what I wrote about having no evidence? : But I guess everything you have an opinion about is absolutely proven, mr : Spock... [...] Worry about your own problems Anders. It would have been a lot easier for you had you had the guts to admit you'd made a mistake here. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ |