10 Most Notable Events of the Decade
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From: Alkamista on 2 Jan 2010 13:00 On Jan 2, 12:15 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 Jan, 16:15, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 10:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 2 Jan, 15:10, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 2, 12:17 am, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > 10 Arsenal going the entire 2003/2004 season undefeated > > > > > > 9 Jose Mourinho winning the title in three different leagues in five > > > > > years > > > > > > 8 Barcelona winning every competition they entered in 2009 > > > > > > 7 Spain finally winning a major championship > > > > > > 6 Real Madrid's surreal 2009 spending spree > > > > > > 5 Henry's handball against Ireland > > > > > No. IMO, of course. Replace with EPL's rise to prominence > > > > and the fall of the Serie A. > > > > Which is why EPL teams have now managed to win exactly half the CL > > > titles as Serie A teams this decade and been represented in just two > > > extra final berths. > > > > If you are going to troll at least be good at it.- > > > Expressing an opinion, and especially the majority one, is not > > trolling. The UCL is not just the final, but a whole tournament, and > > EPL teams have done exceptionally well in it last few years, and > > certainly better than Serie A clubs. Also, head to head EPL have > > dominanted, and on many occasions even humiliated, Serie A clubs this > > decade. Seriously, you have got to be kidding. > > There's nothing exceptional about not winning. Much ballyhooed EPL > teams have been humiliated at the hands of Serie A teams as well. http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2010.html Italy should be far more worried about Germany overtaking them than trying to compete with England and Spain.
From: Alkamista on 2 Jan 2010 13:02 On Jan 2, 2:17 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)noemail.com> wrote: > "Alkamista" <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:7beebd4f-41b9-4175-aae0-0eebe4d3fca4(a)22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 1, 10:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2 Jan, 15:10, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 2, 12:17 am, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 10 Arsenal going the entire 2003/2004 season undefeated > > > > > 9 Jose Mourinho winning the title in three different leagues in five > > > > years > > > > > 8 Barcelona winning every competition they entered in 2009 > > > > > 7 Spain finally winning a major championship > > > > > 6 Real Madrid's surreal 2009 spending spree > > > > > 5 Henry's handball against Ireland > > > > No. IMO, of course. Replace with EPL's rise to prominence > > > and the fall of the Serie A. > > > Which is why EPL teams have now managed to win exactly half the CL > > titles as Serie A teams this decade and been represented in just two > > extra final berths. > > > If you are going to troll at least be good at it.- > > Expressing an opinion, and especially the majority one, is not > > trolling. > > Numbers don't lie and aren't opinions. > > > The UCL is not just the final, but a whole tournament, and > > EPL teams have done exceptionally well in it last few years, and > > certainly better than Serie A clubs. Also, head to head EPL have > > dominanted, and on many occasions even humiliated, Serie A clubs this > > decade. Seriously, you have got to be kidding. > > Which humiliations are you referring to? > > You mean like the Milan-ManU 3-0 humiliation Juventus 0-3 Man Utd Inter 1-4 Arsenal Man Utd 7-1 Roma
From: Alkamista on 2 Jan 2010 13:19 On Jan 2, 2:59 am, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > Alkamista wrote: > > 10 Arsenal going the entire 2003/2004 season undefeated > > Nice, but not that notable if you're not english. Why not? Going undefeated in a top European league is a big deal. Has it happened in Italy or Spain in the last decade or two? (asking, dont know the answer.) > > > 7 Spain finally winning a major championship > > Just the Euro. If they win this year's WCup, now that will be > something. > (BTW, they won the Euro before.) They did indeed in 1964, wasn't aware of that. > > > 5 Henry's handball against Ireland > > No way. Minor incident blown out of proportion. That's precisely why it was notable. If 10-20 years from now people remember it as the second most famous handball in WC history then it's earned its place. > > > 2 Underdog Greece winning the EC in 2004 > > Again, just the Euro. What's your bias against the Euros? It is a huge tournament. And Greece winning it is like the US winning the WC. > > 4 Brazil WCup winners 2002 (nothing extraordinary but still, a WCup > win is something notable) I was focusing more on events out of the ordinary.
From: FF on 2 Jan 2010 13:35 Alkamista wrote: > On Jan 2, 2:59 am, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > > Alkamista wrote: > > > 10 Arsenal going the entire 2003/2004 season undefeated > > > > Nice, but not that notable if you're not english. > > Why not? Going undefeated in a top European league is a big deal. Has > it happened in Italy or Spain in the last decade or two? (asking, dont > know the answer.) Neither do I, but still, I don't find it that extraordinary. It is, but how shall I put it, in a secondary way. Let's put it this way, any team would prefer to win the Premier League once than to finish 10 times second undefeated. In the end, winning it (lawfully) is what really matters. > > > 5 Henry's handball against Ireland > > > > No way. Minor incident blown out of proportion. > > That's precisely why it was notable. If 10-20 years from now people > remember it as the second most famous handball in WC history then it's > earned its place. They won't. > > > 2 Underdog Greece winning the EC in 2004 > > > > Again, just the Euro. > > What's your bias against the Euros? It is a huge tournament. And > Greece winning it is like the US winning the WC. It's not bias, just realistic evaluation. IMO, of course. 10 Euro Cups don't make a World Cup, as I believe I've said a few times before. No way; the US winning the WCup would be 1000 times more notable. That's precisely why we won't live to see it happen. I'll believe it when I'll see it, not a moment before. > > 4 Brazil WCup winners 2002 (nothing extraordinary but still, a WCup > > win is something notable) > > I was focusing more on events out of the ordinary. Yes, well, I thought it's more meaningful to look back to all the notable moments, "ordinary" or extraordinary.
From: Alkamista on 2 Jan 2010 13:54
On Jan 2, 12:35 pm, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > Alkamista wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2:59 am, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > > > Alkamista wrote: > > > > 10 Arsenal going the entire 2003/2004 season undefeated > > > > Nice, but not that notable if you're not english. > > > Why not? Going undefeated in a top European league is a big deal. Has > > it happened in Italy or Spain in the last decade or two? (asking, dont > > know the answer.) > > Neither do I, but still, I don't find it that extraordinary. It is, > but how shall I put it, in a secondary way. Let's put it this way, any > team would prefer to win the Premier League once than to finish 10 > times second undefeated. In the end, winning it (lawfully) is what > really matters. Yes, but winning it and going undefeated at the same time is special. If it wasn't extraordinary, it would have happened more. > > > > > 5 Henry's handball against Ireland > > > > No way. Minor incident blown out of proportion. > > > That's precisely why it was notable. If 10-20 years from now people > > remember it as the second most famous handball in WC history then it's > > earned its place. > > They won't. > > > > > 2 Underdog Greece winning the EC in 2004 > > > > Again, just the Euro. > > > What's your bias against the Euros? It is a huge tournament. And > > Greece winning it is like the US winning the WC. > > It's not bias, just realistic evaluation. IMO, of course. 10 Euro Cups > don't make a World Cup, as I believe I've said a few times before. > No way; the US winning the WCup would be 1000 times more notable. > That's precisely why we won't live to see it happen. I'll believe it > when I'll see it, not a moment before. The EC is basically the WC without Brazil, Argentina, and some contributions to global diversity. If you are arguing that the WC is a much bigger stage, it is, but then so are the Olympics, but in terms of difficulty of winning, intensity, and prestige for Europeans it is not far behind. As for Greece, they were the perenial whipping boys of Europe. They didnt even qualify for a EC until 1980 and a WC until 1994. Sorry but you may be alone on this one, Greece winning the EC was an upset of historic propotions. > > > > 4 Brazil WCup winners 2002 (nothing extraordinary but still, a WCup > > > win is something notable) > > > I was focusing more on events out of the ordinary. > > Yes, well, I thought it's more meaningful to look back to all the > notable moments, "ordinary" or extraordinary. You can of course use whatever criteria you choose, but I didn't consider events that had a 100% probability of occuring (i.e. a team winning the WC) of being that noteworthy (or mention-worthy, rather). |